On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>
> >
> > I strongly recommend we upgrade to RedHat 7.1. The reason for that is that
> > most of our packages are quite out-of-date and may have security breaches
> > in them. In order to upgrade using the RPMs or the Source RPMs we need the
> > most up-to-date version of RPM - 4.0.x. The latter does not compile
> > cleanly out of its source (at least not the last time I checked) and its
> > RPM is in version 4.x format, too.
>
> Redhat does give there an simpler upgrade path than recompiling he whole
> distro.
>
> Let's see now:
>
>   [tzafrir@iglu tzafrir]$ rpm -q rpm
>   rpm-4.0.2-6x
>
> (according to its install date it was installed on Fri 27 Jul 2001
> 05:10:48 PM IDT)
>
> So the rpm part should be basically covered.
>
> Note however:
>
>   [tzafrir@iglu tzafrir]$ rpm -qa |grep rpm
>   rpm-build-3.0.4-0.48
>   rpm-devel-3.0.4-0.48
>   rpm-4.0.2-6x
>
> The rpm-build package needs updating as well (and the rpm-devel, while
> we're at it)
>

Yes, but those packages are less critical than the RPM program itself.

> But our reason for wanting to upgrade was a safer upgrade to kernel 2.4

That's right. kernel 2.4.x will be nice.

>
> >
> > The best way to ensure easy maintainability is to upgrade to RH 7.1 which
> > supports the new RPM format. It will also save us some trouble because it
> > already comes with newer packages. And I did not hear too many horror
> > stories about RH 7.1, so installing it should be OK.
>
> My problem with the installation is that it is a downtime (2-3 hours for
> the installation, and some unexpected time period later, until everything
> works fine). As such if we do decide to do it, it might be better to do it
> ASAP (while the mirrors are empty and traffic is low?)
>

If we want to keep the machine up-to-date with the latest software, it
will have some downtime in any case. As long as we announce it some time
in advance, it should not pose a problem.

But you are right that it is better to do it, before we re-enact the
mirrors.

> >
> > The other alternative is to install everything from the source tar.gz, but
> > it would be more painful because the RH distro configures things
> > differntly from their default.
>
> Again, installing most things from source rpms works fine (at least for
> programs. Basic packages, like kernel and glibc are a different story)
>

True. But we may need to install less stuff if we upgrade.

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish



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