Quoting Hetz Ben-Hamo, from the post of Mon, 23 Dec:
> > from all that I am reading, it sounds like XOO does nothing special
> > to wine itself, only eases the installation. I'm not a unix newbie
> > so I thought I could get office to run on the daily WINE I get on 
> 
> Hardly...
> 
> CrossOver is much more then some wine-on-steroids. It's a version of
> wine with some unreleased patches (will be released a bit later), and
> it got some mechanism that is not available in the standard wine.
> 

so it's an LGPL product that I buy with patches but no source as
binary-only? It sounds terribly illegal to me for them to do that, and
against my ideals to give them money for it.

> Just an example: If you want to install MS Office, then in the end
> you'll need to: 1. do a simulate "reboot" of wine.  2. Register quite
> a few DLL's.  3. Do association of file extension to various Linux
> applications (example - doc, .xls to your Netscape/Mozilla/Kmail) 4.
> Collect icons from various programs and convert them to XPM format
> etc...

I could not care less about icons, and I can even live without
associations. what's with the DLL registering, doesn't the install
process of office take care of it? I thought I just copy the system
directory of my win2k partition and be good to go... I guess I am
getting funny stares from all the other list members here... 
> 
> Current free wine cannot do any of the above by itself. You can look
> at the mailing list of the wine-devel to see that the "reboot" process
> it starting to be written by Schachar...

ok then... say I buy XOO for 200 shekels, no I see they went up to 250
shekels... can I really only install it on a single machine and not
many? doesn't that violate the wine license again ?!

> 
> The latest version of CrossOver office is also running MS Access
> 97,2000 and Office XP. None of those programs runnning well with the
> free wine (unless you want to start copying DLL's from Windows and
> over-come the "reboot" problems.

I'd love to know what that involves, because I know that some people DID
manage to do it on their own, so how bad can it be? hasn't anyone
released a HOWTO or even a free script to do those things?

bahh. lucky I'm no conspiracist, the whole wine/codeweavers deal smells
fishy to me... the Free alternative to a closed product turns out to be
closed as well, how rediculous is that?

Ira.

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