On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:43 PM, narendra sisodiya < [email protected]> wrote:
Are you sure that a walk of 50 people can make a difference for the entire country? Consider the Gay pride walks organised in various parts of the country. They got so much media coverage because of two reasons: 1. It was a spicy issue for the media. 2. It had enormous participation. FOSS is not such a spicy issue for the media people so i think to maximise the impact, we need to increase the participation. > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Tanay Mathpal <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Parin Sharma <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> I joined the mailing list [email protected] and asked them > for > >> ideas and here is their reply so what is your idea..................?? > > > > > > We are definitely heading in the right direction. Now the next important > > step has to be collecting and organising people (FOSS enthusiasts/college > > and school students). I think for that first we need the support of the > > members of this community in finalising date/time/venue for the walk and > > when that is done, we can us freedomwalk.in for the logistics part. > > Then the later part is to spread the word through email, mailing lists, > > twitter, SMS campaigns and possibly through the media.. > >> > >> So can we have a Freedom Walk in Delhi soon?? > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Anoop John <[email protected]> > >> Date: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM > >> Subject: [freedomwalk] Re: Freedom Walk in Delhi?? > >> To: [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Parin, > >> > >> Nice to see somebody else taking this campaign up. > >> > >> > were thinking of organising a Freedom Walk in Delhi because the > >> > >> What is the basic plan that you have in mind about the proposed walk? > >> > >> From where? To where? Distances? Timeline? > >> > >> Most of the on the ground activities like programs, media interactions > >> and details like stay/food etc for the freedom walk that we had > >> organized in Kerala were organized at a distributed level because we > >> had reasonably good community support across Kerala. Zyxware acted as > >> the NOC for communications. The full walk was undertaken by 4 of us > >> while a lot of people joined us as the walk progressed through the > >> different districts. > >> > >> Do you have volunteers who will be part of the walk from start to the > >> finish? > >> > >> We would definitely love to share our experiences and any > >> tips/suggestions with you for organizing your walk. > >> > >> You could also use the site(freedomwalk.in) to post updates and > >> organize the walk if the idea gets off the ground. > >> > >> Hope to hear from you soon. > >> > >> Best Regards > >> Anoop John > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> http://www.zyxware.com > >> http://www.anoopjohn.com > >> http://www.thondomraughts.com > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> "Be the change you wish to see in the world", M. K. Gandhi > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Parin Sharma > >> Another FOSS Lover, > >> New Delhi > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Parin Sharma <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Tanay Mathpal <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Parin Sharma <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Tanay <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That's absolutely a remarkable idea.. But for this, it is very > >>>>>> necessary that we have a large crowd of FOSS people.. By large > crowd, > >>>>>> i mean the number to be in excess of 3-4K. such a large crowd has to > >>>>>> be channelised so that we are able to send our message to the entire > >>>>>> country. > >>>>> > >>>>> Hm well not 3-4K but we can easily have around 1K people and then we > >>>>> can call schools/colleges students who are easy to handle and can > come in > >>>>> great number then our FOSS enthusiasts > >>>> > >>>> I think that inviting someone just coz s/he is easy to handle won't > >>>> solve the purpose. In my opinion, everyone participating in the march > should > >>>> be himself/herself a dedicated FOSS enthusiast, then only the purpose > would > >>>> be solved. A large mass of school students march for Pulse Polio > campaigns > >>>> also but none of them is actually serious about the mission, hence the > >>>> problem is never solved. > >>> > >>> I wanted to say that thing only so to make/get students dedicated to > FOSS > >>> we are already are working by organizing workshops in various schools > and > >>> colleges............ > >>>>> > >>>>> they will be there I hope so we can just start planning about 3-4 > >>>>> before the event then we can gather people in large number I think. > Rest we > >>>>> can call students from our colleges and schools........... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There has to be extensive media coverage which can only be assured > if > >>>>>> we have a large crowd. We would need a larger forum to address these > >>>>>> whole lot of people. Any suggestions for all this? > >>>>>> > >>>>> Hm media should cover these kind of events and they have to when as > we > >>>>> will have mass gathered......... > >>>> > >>>> Media coverage would depend on the mass being gathered and also how > much > >>>> we publicize the event. http://freedomwalk.in is an excellent medium. > Apart > >>>> from this, there has to be a dedicated website/blog which reports > about the > >>>> walk and updates the media people. FOSS enthusiasts with contacts in > media, > >>>> either print or electronic, would be a great help in this campaign. A > huge > >>>> number of posters/banners are an absolute must. Funding/sponsorship > for > >>>> these is another issue to be catered. > >>> > >>> Hm you are right this would only be a success if we all contribute to > it > >>> whatever we can + yes for funding we can talk to companies and may be > to new > >>> engineering colleges or other technical institutes which spend a lot > money > >>> in advertising on Radio, TV printed media etc. and also Computer > Society of > >>> India well there a lot a Organisations who can sponsor this provided > this is > >>> big and we have something solid to show them which we have the "POWER > OF > >>> FREEDOM" so I think we should start in our own ways to think about such > an > >>> event soon and decide things so I would request other Members of the > mailing > >>> list too to give their suggestions because since everyone deserves > Freedom > >>> everyone need to be part of it................ > >>>>> > >>>>> Well we can have posters banners and many other things to call people > >>>>> for such kind of events and there is http://freedomwalk.in which > already is > >>>>> working with this project we can work with them..........but all in > all one > >>>>> thing as you said which matters the most are the mass the people who > are to > >>>>> be made aware of freedom............................. > >>>>> On Nov 8, 5:34 pm, Parin Sharma <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Tanay Mathpal < > [email protected]> > >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Parin Sharma > >>>>>> > > <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Tanay <[email protected]> > >>>>>> > >> wrote: > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> One of the major factors which help proprietary software > vendors > >>>>>> > >>> keep > >>>>>> > >>> a grip on the market is ignorance on the part of the > consumers. > >>>>>> > >>> Newspapers, one of the key sources of information to the > common > >>>>>> > >>> man, > >>>>>> > >>> to aren't playing their part and in their state of ignorance, > >>>>>> > >>> helping > >>>>>> > >>> such organizations. > >>>>>> > >>> Recently, on twitter, i pointed out the proprietary bias shown > >>>>>> > >>> by > >>>>>> > >>> Times of India vs Open Mindedness shown by The Hindu > >>>>>> > >>> "#timesofindia vs > >>>>>> > >>> #thehindu Clear proprietary bias shown by > >>>>>> > >>> #timesofindiahttp://3.ly/bvh > >>>>>> > >>> andhttp://3.ly/MQk#opensource #linux". > >>>>>> > >>> I also came across many internet related news articles in the > >>>>>> > >>> local > >>>>>> > >>> paper Amar Ujala which used the logo of Internet Explorer. It > >>>>>> > >>> gives a > >>>>>> > >>> wrong notion to the ignorant masses that the Internet and > >>>>>> > >>> Internet > >>>>>> > >>> Explorer are synonymous. So i pointed out this to the Editor, > >>>>>> > >>> Amar > >>>>>> > >>> Ujala through a letter, a copy of which I am pasting below. > >>>>>> > >>> My motive is to inspire every reader to fight FOSS ignorance > in > >>>>>> > >>> whatever best way s/he can and spread the spirit of Open > Source. > >>>>>> > >>> All the best to all. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >> Hm I too read this and my thoughts were the same so I commented > >>>>>> > >> on that > >>>>>> > >> article but they didn't reply with an email. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > I too commented on that article on the TOI site but they didn't > >>>>>> > > approve it > >>>>>> > > neither did they reply.. We all need to do a lot more now for > >>>>>> > > ending this > >>>>>> > > ignorance.. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Hm Well this for all of us Can't we organise a Freedom Walk or > March > >>>>>> > sometime in Delhi or some other place to tell people about these > >>>>>> > great > >>>>>> > things because everyone deserves freedom and I think this can > really > >>>>>> > help as > >>>>>> > many media people will report about such a rally so awareness can > be > >>>>>> > spread > >>>>>> > + the ignorance level too can be minimized by telling people about > >>>>>> > Studies > >>>>>> > like the one Done by IIM - Banglore which says FOSS can save 10, > 000 > >>>>>> > Crores > >>>>>> > of our country by only replacing 50% of Proprietary Software with > >>>>>> > FOSS more > >>>>>> > onhttp://bit.ly/OooR > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> The Letter > >>>>>> > >>> ---------------- > >>>>>> > >>> Hello sir, > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> I am a regular reader of your newspaper an am highly > >>>>>> > >>> appreciative of > >>>>>> > >>> the content matter and the quality of unbiased journalism of > the > >>>>>> > >>> daily. > >>>>>> > >>> I would like to point your kind attention to a regular feature > >>>>>> > >>> of the > >>>>>> > >>> web related articles published in Amar Ujala. Most of such > >>>>>> > >>> articles > >>>>>> > >>> contain the logo > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> of Microsoft's proprietary web browser - Internet Explorer. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> Apart from being a free publicity for the browser and the > >>>>>> > >>> company, it > >>>>>> > >>> gives a wrong notion to the lakhs of readers of the newspaper > >>>>>> > >>> that the > >>>>>> > >>> Internet and Internet Explorer are synonymous. The role of a > >>>>>> > >>> newspaper > >>>>>> > >>> is to create a better, an aware society. Using Microsoft > >>>>>> > >>> Internet > >>>>>> > >>> Explorer's logo in your articles gives the ignorant readers a > >>>>>> > >>> notion > >>>>>> > >>> that Internet Explorer is what the Internet is all about, > which > >>>>>> > >>> is > >>>>>> > >>> totally wrong. A newspaper of your reputation should instead > >>>>>> > >>> promote > >>>>>> > >>> Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> which gives the users the freedom to use them, without being > >>>>>> > >>> under the > >>>>>> > >>> restrictions of copyright laws. Mozilla Firefox > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> is one of the most popular Open Source > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> browsers available. Another Open Source browser, Google Chrome > >>>>>> > >>> is > >>>>>> > >>> doing well in the browser market. Opera > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> and Apple's Safari > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> , though not Open Source, are still options available to the > >>>>>> > >>> users. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> My only concern is that the newspaper should not mislead the > >>>>>> > >>> readers. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> Hence I request you to kindly look into the matter and do > >>>>>> > >>> something in > >>>>>> > >>> this regard as early as possible. I would like to get an > >>>>>> > >>> acknowledgment of this letter to you. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> I would be highly obliged. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> Thanking you > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> Yours sincerely, > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>> -- > >>>>>> > >>> Tanay Mathpal > >>>>>> > >>> Final Yr, Computer Engineering > >>>>>> > >>> College of Technology > >>>>>> > >>> Pantnagar > >>>>>> > >>> [email protected] > >>>>>> > >>> [email protected] > >>>>>> > >>>http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ > >>>>>> > >>>http://twitter.com/tanamania/ > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >> Nice you wrote this letter to them hope they do reply and don't > >>>>>> > >> repeat > >>>>>> > >> this by writing such Bias and misleading articles their > >>>>>> > >> newspaper............... > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >> -- > >>>>>> > >> Parin Sharma > >>>>>> > >> Another FOSS Lover, > >>>>>> > >> New Delhi > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > -- > >>>>>> > > Tanay Mathpal > >>>>>> > > Final Yr, Computer Engineering > >>>>>> > > College of Technology > >>>>>> > > Pantnagar > >>>>>> > > [email protected] > >>>>>> > > [email protected] > >>>>>> > >http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ > >>>>>> > >http://twitter.com/tanamania/ > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > -- > >>>>>> > Parin Sharma > >>>>>> > Another FOSS Lover, > >>>>>> > New Delhi > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Parin Sharma > >>>>> Another FOSS Lover, > >>>>> New Delhi > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Tanay Mathpal > >>>> Final Yr, Computer Engineering > >>>> College of Technology > >>>> Pantnagar > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ > >>>> http://twitter.com/tanamania/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Parin Sharma > >>> Another FOSS Lover, > >>> New Delhi > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Parin Sharma > >> Another FOSS Lover, > >> New Delhi > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Tanay Mathpal > > Final Yr, Computer Engineering > > College of Technology > > Pantnagar > > [email protected] > > [email protected] > > http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ > > http://twitter.com/tanamania/ > > > > > > > > > -- > We can make some poster and put in colleges and ask for joining them. > Also there is no need to collect 3K-4K to make an impact. 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