On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Tanay Mathpal <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:43 PM, narendra sisodiya > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Are you sure that a walk of 50 people can make a difference for the entire > country? But we should not wait for collecting large public too. (3K-4K) is seems very very difficult. we can only try out best and let see how much impact we can make !! > Consider the Gay pride walks organised in various parts of the > country. They got so much media coverage because of two reasons: > 1. It was a spicy issue for the media. > 2. It had enormous participation. > FOSS is not such a spicy issue for the media people so i think to maximise > the impact, we need to increase the participation. >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Tanay Mathpal <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Parin Sharma <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I joined the mailing list [email protected] and asked them >> >> for >> >> ideas and here is their reply so what is your idea..................?? >> > >> > >> > We are definitely heading in the right direction. Now the next important >> > step has to be collecting and organising people (FOSS >> > enthusiasts/college >> > and school students). I think for that first we need the support of the >> > members of this community in finalising date/time/venue for the walk and >> > when that is done, we can us freedomwalk.in for the logistics part. >> > Then the later part is to spread the word through email, mailing lists, >> > twitter, SMS campaigns and possibly through the media.. >> >> >> >> So can we have a Freedom Walk in Delhi soon?? >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> From: Anoop John <[email protected]> >> >> Date: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM >> >> Subject: [freedomwalk] Re: Freedom Walk in Delhi?? >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Parin, >> >> >> >> Nice to see somebody else taking this campaign up. >> >> >> >> > were thinking of organising a Freedom Walk in Delhi because the >> >> >> >> What is the basic plan that you have in mind about the proposed walk? >> >> >> >> From where? To where? Distances? Timeline? >> >> >> >> Most of the on the ground activities like programs, media interactions >> >> and details like stay/food etc for the freedom walk that we had >> >> organized in Kerala were organized at a distributed level because we >> >> had reasonably good community support across Kerala. Zyxware acted as >> >> the NOC for communications. The full walk was undertaken by 4 of us >> >> while a lot of people joined us as the walk progressed through the >> >> different districts. >> >> >> >> Do you have volunteers who will be part of the walk from start to the >> >> finish? >> >> >> >> We would definitely love to share our experiences and any >> >> tips/suggestions with you for organizing your walk. >> >> >> >> You could also use the site(freedomwalk.in) to post updates and >> >> organize the walk if the idea gets off the ground. >> >> >> >> Hope to hear from you soon. >> >> >> >> Best Regards >> >> Anoop John >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> http://www.zyxware.com >> >> http://www.anoopjohn.com >> >> http://www.thondomraughts.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> "Be the change you wish to see in the world", M. K. Gandhi >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Parin Sharma >> >> Another FOSS Lover, >> >> New Delhi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Parin Sharma <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Tanay Mathpal <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Parin Sharma <[email protected]> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Tanay <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> That's absolutely a remarkable idea.. But for this, it is very >> >>>>>> necessary that we have a large crowd of FOSS people.. By large >> >>>>>> crowd, >> >>>>>> i mean the number to be in excess of 3-4K. such a large crowd has >> >>>>>> to >> >>>>>> be channelised so that we are able to send our message to the >> >>>>>> entire >> >>>>>> country. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Hm well not 3-4K but we can easily have around 1K people and then we >> >>>>> can call schools/colleges students who are easy to handle and can >> >>>>> come in >> >>>>> great number then our FOSS enthusiasts >> >>>> >> >>>> I think that inviting someone just coz s/he is easy to handle won't >> >>>> solve the purpose. In my opinion, everyone participating in the march >> >>>> should >> >>>> be himself/herself a dedicated FOSS enthusiast, then only the purpose >> >>>> would >> >>>> be solved. A large mass of school students march for Pulse Polio >> >>>> campaigns >> >>>> also but none of them is actually serious about the mission, hence >> >>>> the >> >>>> problem is never solved. >> >>> >> >>> I wanted to say that thing only so to make/get students dedicated to >> >>> FOSS >> >>> we are already are working by organizing workshops in various schools >> >>> and >> >>> colleges............ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> they will be there I hope so we can just start planning about 3-4 >> >>>>> before the event then we can gather people in large number I think. >> >>>>> Rest we >> >>>>> can call students from our colleges and schools........... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> There has to be extensive media coverage which can only be assured >> >>>>>> if >> >>>>>> we have a large crowd. We would need a larger forum to address >> >>>>>> these >> >>>>>> whole lot of people. Any suggestions for all this? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> Hm media should cover these kind of events and they have to when as >> >>>>> we >> >>>>> will have mass gathered......... >> >>>> >> >>>> Media coverage would depend on the mass being gathered and also how >> >>>> much >> >>>> we publicize the event. http://freedomwalk.in is an excellent medium. >> >>>> Apart >> >>>> from this, there has to be a dedicated website/blog which reports >> >>>> about the >> >>>> walk and updates the media people. FOSS enthusiasts with contacts in >> >>>> media, >> >>>> either print or electronic, would be a great help in this campaign. A >> >>>> huge >> >>>> number of posters/banners are an absolute must. Funding/sponsorship >> >>>> for >> >>>> these is another issue to be catered. >> >>> >> >>> Hm you are right this would only be a success if we all contribute to >> >>> it >> >>> whatever we can + yes for funding we can talk to companies and may be >> >>> to new >> >>> engineering colleges or other technical institutes which spend a lot >> >>> money >> >>> in advertising on Radio, TV printed media etc. and also Computer >> >>> Society of >> >>> India well there a lot a Organisations who can sponsor this provided >> >>> this is >> >>> big and we have something solid to show them which we have the "POWER >> >>> OF >> >>> FREEDOM" so I think we should start in our own ways to think about >> >>> such an >> >>> event soon and decide things so I would request other Members of the >> >>> mailing >> >>> list too to give their suggestions because since everyone deserves >> >>> Freedom >> >>> everyone need to be part of it................ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Well we can have posters banners and many other things to call >> >>>>> people >> >>>>> for such kind of events and there is http://freedomwalk.in which >> >>>>> already is >> >>>>> working with this project we can work with them..........but all in >> >>>>> all one >> >>>>> thing as you said which matters the most are the mass the people who >> >>>>> are to >> >>>>> be made aware of freedom............................. >> >>>>> On Nov 8, 5:34 pm, Parin Sharma <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Tanay Mathpal >> >>>>>> > <[email protected]> >> >>>>>> > wrote: >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Parin Sharma >> >>>>>> > > <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Tanay <[email protected]> >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> One of the major factors which help proprietary software >> >>>>>> > >>> vendors >> >>>>>> > >>> keep >> >>>>>> > >>> a grip on the market is ignorance on the part of the >> >>>>>> > >>> consumers. >> >>>>>> > >>> Newspapers, one of the key sources of information to the >> >>>>>> > >>> common >> >>>>>> > >>> man, >> >>>>>> > >>> to aren't playing their part and in their state of ignorance, >> >>>>>> > >>> helping >> >>>>>> > >>> such organizations. >> >>>>>> > >>> Recently, on twitter, i pointed out the proprietary bias >> >>>>>> > >>> shown >> >>>>>> > >>> by >> >>>>>> > >>> Times of India vs Open Mindedness shown by The Hindu >> >>>>>> > >>> "#timesofindia vs >> >>>>>> > >>> #thehindu Clear proprietary bias shown by >> >>>>>> > >>> #timesofindiahttp://3.ly/bvh >> >>>>>> > >>> andhttp://3.ly/MQk#opensource #linux". >> >>>>>> > >>> I also came across many internet related news articles in the >> >>>>>> > >>> local >> >>>>>> > >>> paper Amar Ujala which used the logo of Internet Explorer. It >> >>>>>> > >>> gives a >> >>>>>> > >>> wrong notion to the ignorant masses that the Internet and >> >>>>>> > >>> Internet >> >>>>>> > >>> Explorer are synonymous. So i pointed out this to the Editor, >> >>>>>> > >>> Amar >> >>>>>> > >>> Ujala through a letter, a copy of which I am pasting below. >> >>>>>> > >>> My motive is to inspire every reader to fight FOSS ignorance >> >>>>>> > >>> in >> >>>>>> > >>> whatever best way s/he can and spread the spirit of Open >> >>>>>> > >>> Source. >> >>>>>> > >>> All the best to all. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Hm I too read this and my thoughts were the same so I >> >>>>>> > >> commented >> >>>>>> > >> on that >> >>>>>> > >> article but they didn't reply with an email. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > > I too commented on that article on the TOI site but they didn't >> >>>>>> > > approve it >> >>>>>> > > neither did they reply.. We all need to do a lot more now for >> >>>>>> > > ending this >> >>>>>> > > ignorance.. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > Hm Well this for all of us Can't we organise a Freedom Walk or >> >>>>>> > March >> >>>>>> > sometime in Delhi or some other place to tell people about these >> >>>>>> > great >> >>>>>> > things because everyone deserves freedom and I think this can >> >>>>>> > really >> >>>>>> > help as >> >>>>>> > many media people will report about such a rally so awareness can >> >>>>>> > be >> >>>>>> > spread >> >>>>>> > + the ignorance level too can be minimized by telling people >> >>>>>> > about >> >>>>>> > Studies >> >>>>>> > like the one Done by IIM - Banglore which says FOSS can save 10, >> >>>>>> > 000 >> >>>>>> > Crores >> >>>>>> > of our country by only replacing 50% of Proprietary Software with >> >>>>>> > FOSS more >> >>>>>> > onhttp://bit.ly/OooR >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> The Letter >> >>>>>> > >>> ---------------- >> >>>>>> > >>> Hello sir, >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> I am a regular reader of your newspaper an am highly >> >>>>>> > >>> appreciative of >> >>>>>> > >>> the content matter and the quality of unbiased journalism of >> >>>>>> > >>> the >> >>>>>> > >>> daily. >> >>>>>> > >>> I would like to point your kind attention to a regular >> >>>>>> > >>> feature >> >>>>>> > >>> of the >> >>>>>> > >>> web related articles published in Amar Ujala. Most of such >> >>>>>> > >>> articles >> >>>>>> > >>> contain the logo >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> of Microsoft's proprietary web browser - Internet Explorer. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> Apart from being a free publicity for the browser and the >> >>>>>> > >>> company, it >> >>>>>> > >>> gives a wrong notion to the lakhs of readers of the newspaper >> >>>>>> > >>> that the >> >>>>>> > >>> Internet and Internet Explorer are synonymous. The role of a >> >>>>>> > >>> newspaper >> >>>>>> > >>> is to create a better, an aware society. Using Microsoft >> >>>>>> > >>> Internet >> >>>>>> > >>> Explorer's logo in your articles gives the ignorant readers a >> >>>>>> > >>> notion >> >>>>>> > >>> that Internet Explorer is what the Internet is all about, >> >>>>>> > >>> which >> >>>>>> > >>> is >> >>>>>> > >>> totally wrong. A newspaper of your reputation should instead >> >>>>>> > >>> promote >> >>>>>> > >>> Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> which gives the users the freedom to use them, without being >> >>>>>> > >>> under the >> >>>>>> > >>> restrictions of copyright laws. Mozilla Firefox >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> is one of the most popular Open Source >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> browsers available. Another Open Source browser, Google >> >>>>>> > >>> Chrome >> >>>>>> > >>> is >> >>>>>> > >>> doing well in the browser market. Opera >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> and Apple's Safari >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> , though not Open Source, are still options available to the >> >>>>>> > >>> users. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> My only concern is that the newspaper should not mislead the >> >>>>>> > >>> readers. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> Hence I request you to kindly look into the matter and do >> >>>>>> > >>> something in >> >>>>>> > >>> this regard as early as possible. I would like to get an >> >>>>>> > >>> acknowledgment of this letter to you. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> I would be highly obliged. >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> Thanking you >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> Yours sincerely, >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >>> -- >> >>>>>> > >>> Tanay Mathpal >> >>>>>> > >>> Final Yr, Computer Engineering >> >>>>>> > >>> College of Technology >> >>>>>> > >>> Pantnagar >> >>>>>> > >>> [email protected] >> >>>>>> > >>> [email protected] >> >>>>>> > >>>http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ >> >>>>>> > >>>http://twitter.com/tanamania/ >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Nice you wrote this letter to them hope they do reply and >> >>>>>> > >> don't >> >>>>>> > >> repeat >> >>>>>> > >> this by writing such Bias and misleading articles their >> >>>>>> > >> newspaper............... >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> -- >> >>>>>> > >> Parin Sharma >> >>>>>> > >> Another FOSS Lover, >> >>>>>> > >> New Delhi >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > > -- >> >>>>>> > > Tanay Mathpal >> >>>>>> > > Final Yr, Computer Engineering >> >>>>>> > > College of Technology >> >>>>>> > > Pantnagar >> >>>>>> > > [email protected] >> >>>>>> > > [email protected] >> >>>>>> > >http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ >> >>>>>> > >http://twitter.com/tanamania/ >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > -- >> >>>>>> > Parin Sharma >> >>>>>> > Another FOSS Lover, >> >>>>>> > New Delhi >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Parin Sharma >> >>>>> Another FOSS Lover, >> >>>>> New Delhi >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Tanay Mathpal >> >>>> Final Yr, Computer Engineering >> >>>> College of Technology >> >>>> Pantnagar >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ >> >>>> http://twitter.com/tanamania/ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Parin Sharma >> >>> Another FOSS Lover, >> >>> New Delhi >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Parin Sharma >> >> Another FOSS Lover, >> >> New Delhi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Tanay Mathpal >> > Final Yr, Computer Engineering >> > College of Technology >> > Pantnagar >> > [email protected] >> > [email protected] >> > http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ >> > http://twitter.com/tanamania/ >> > >> > > >> > >> -- >> We can make some poster and put in colleges and ask for joining them. >> Also there is no need to collect 3K-4K to make an impact. 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