----- Original Message ----- From: Raja Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Points to ponder -- Re: [ilug-cal] BluePrint
> openly stated, publicly available aims, regulations or proceedures i guess its time to reiterate .. they do exist .. let's just re-state and make it known too.. aims can also be allowed to change with changing needs .. that too can be kept in mind please. > How many people have left this site in a huff .. happens .. let's try to get them back .. and prevent others from leaving .. everyone's "duty" ! > indifference .. I know not. not indifference .. a little pro-active action will make set this right .. it did, does, and will hurt all of us if EVEN one members leaves .. more so when the member leaves in a huff > .. aims of this forum ... they exist .. need to be re-stated > .. the list is little more than a forum for..ramblings.. hmm .. but now it is gaining some focus too raja. > (e.g. last year when 3000 people died ... > ...Indo/Pak repercussions... well we have our own rajdhani deaths too .. many of my friends, relatives are dead, injured, and unscathed .. didn't see any posts here tho .. maybe this doesn't qualify as a subject here. but this is how we have it here .. any one can try and post some OT msgs .. i guess there will be response too. > What? Oh ! What has the list achieved since its inception? Pray > enumerate. whew ! everyone's asking himself this question .. and therefore things are showing signs of change too. > What there is, on its defunct website where is this 'defunct' website ? i too am curious. > (while TWO new websites rot on the sidelines) they are waiting .. not rotting yet .. for 'delegating' by 'owner' .. and i know that sdg is in touch too .. i hope this will be hosted sooner rather than later. > is mighty, mighty little for a city as large and > purpotedly as intellectually gifted as Kolkata. miles to go before i sleep .. and miles to go .. lets start the journey folks .. bangalore hosts seminars .. calcutta already does the bangla font thing .. we ARE ahead .. a little ahead .. it IS gifted city .. > And it is not through lack of funds - no one has bothered to seek in the > past! It may not even be through the lack of participation nope .. neither .. so what's holding things back ? a question which needs to be tackled the way it IS being tackled .. by doing things .. i see light .. > - look at > numbers who volunteered for the Fair (it was 10 confirmed, 5 maybes - this is goodness of nice people here .. hope this lasts for a looong looong time..amen ! > before this war broke out). no war here .. yet. some re-orientation needed. > This is the city of little theater groups > and little magazines - I cannot believe that there is no similar > interest in OSS, in the bastion, if I may call it that, of the > anti-capitalists. it is ! a city of ..... all these groups are inconsequential now .. neither these nor other systems delivered the goods.. a different solution may be needed .. i dunno. > What has the list done to reach out and be known? hmm .. something does need to be done about this. > I was in Kolkata for a year and a half, working w/ 2 local devlopers on a > Linux project before I even heard of ilug-cal. yeow ! > The list has, after all, taken on a heavy mantle - that of representing > the entire city simply by registering for that name and creating an open > list on it no matter who did it. is that so ? the 'mantle' is too heavy .. just this effort can't handle that 'heavy' responsibility .. no way ! > Tathagata Bannerjee stated that all but one founder member has left the > city - I have a thought - Perhaps, the wrong people founded the list! > Perhaps the list was their ticket to whereever they masnaged to run away > to. Perhaps they should have been founding ilug-Sidney or ilug-LA or > some such.(yes ilug-LA - they would be forming ilugs once they figured > out that ulug(yes I know its is just lug) meetings have no seats for > their brown bottoms - that too, is an unstated rule). > -- > > In the end Tathagata Bannerjee may be right - there may be too few in > this list who sympathize with the need for formalization - and that, for > those who realize it, is the principle chord of something much bigger > than our sad little list - the sad history of our country - our > do-nothing nation. > -- > > There, there - I had promised myself that I would not participate in > any such "discussion" threads just a few hours ago - they are just a > waste of time - yours and mine. but i have done so already. the trick, > i suppose is to not read the messages in the first place . . . > > to end on a positive note - A group that regularly has a stall at the > Book Fair may be willing to provide us space. The conversation was > purely casual and I cannot hold them to anything. Still . . . > > I am continuing my efforts to get us to the book fair; I am also > willing to step aside if my inclusion causes volunteers to drop out. > > But - trying to create and apply OSS for what Tathagata Banerjee in his > ignorace calls "blah blah" is what I have been doing for the past few > years at ENORMOUS expense to me and my family (as, at least, a couple > luger knows :)), and what I still continue to do. > > Moreover, I shall do it through the agency of an open organization with > clearly stated aims, rules and processes. This stipulation *may* bar it > from being ilug-cal. > > As pksharma - the butt of jokes of several of you young-uns - has been > saying for some time - DO SOMETHING !! - don't just jaw-jaw. > > Well, no more long-winded, irrelevant mails from me! Nothing that is > not pertinant to practical matters of the Book Fair from me - for a > while, atleast. > > so here goes . . . > > -- > Raja Guha > --------- > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body > "unsubscribe ilug-cal" and an empty subject line. > FAQ: http://www.ilug-cal.org/help/faq_list.html > -- To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe ilug-cal" and an empty subject line. FAQ: http://www.ilug-cal.org/help/faq_list.html
