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From: Indranil Das Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [ilug-cal] HIT as a venue


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pksharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:09 PM
> Subject: [ilug-cal] HIT as a venue
>
>
> <snipped>
> > .. and the nice and kind professor was happy to help us out
for
> > sooo many things .. arising out of fond memories of the past
>
> Ahem! actions speak louder than words, and the picture which
emerges from
> Anirban's mail clearly speaks otherwise -- a lack of clarity of
thought and
> purpose. Like I said before, nothing's wrong with a
quid-pro-quo approach, but
> this should be clear and known to people.

to set matters in proper light .. i was not talking about actions
at, during or after the meeting at HIT .. my "was happy to help"
refers to events BEFORE compass2003


> > having put these things for all to know, i surely would feel
that
> > ALL the venues that have been offered at compass by visitors
to
> > our stalls need to be listed .. and known to some .. if not
all
> > .. so that we can do some planning
>
> All those active at COMPASS coordination effort (i.e. you,
sayamindu,
> tathagatha, sumeet, sankarshan and myself) were in the know
about what happened
> there. And thanks to that, you and Sumeet were able to arrange
HIT as our
> meeting venue.

not entirely accurate .. it was not thanks to compass2003 that
the HIT venue was fixed .. it was requested for even before
compass 2003 and Mr.Poira has consented even before compass2003
.. and Prof SMGhosh's reference was the prime reason for
Mr.Poira's consenting before the compass 2003 event .. sumeet
asked me about how to go about fixing HIT for the meet .. and
that's the thread he was advised to pick up .. and to let me know
if there were any hitches


> [1] To the best of my knowledge, *during* COMPASS it was only
HIT which offered
> some help..

HIT offered help even before compass2003 .. i dunno anything
about the *during* compass offer .. wasn't informed either


> [2] Rohit Vishal Kumar of IISWBM came with the query whether
the LUG would be
> interested in holding a seminar there.

hmm.. this was the ONLY other offer ?


> <OFF-TOPIC>
> POST-COMPASS DEVELOPMENT: After becoming a LUG member, RVK
*did* try to get
> IISWBM as LUG venue, but associated red-tape in getting the
permission and the
> conditional approach proved difficult to work thru. It was
RVK's request to keep
> quiet about this on the list, since he did not want to raise
ppl's hopes in case
> it didn't work out, which is what happened.
> </OFF-TOPIC>

so this leaves us with no other offers ? .. even the HIT attempt
was done by sumeet off this list .. only when it was confirmed as
available did he announce the HIT venue.


> If I have missed something, please write in.

done that ;-D



> > i wish all these youngsters all the best .. for doing the
sh*t
> > work of the nitty gritty of meetings, equipments, agenda
fixing,
> > and so on
>
> <donning_list_admin_hat>
>
> This is serious, calling the task of conducting the LUG meeting
as "shit work"
> is in *sheer bad taste*.

don't quote parts .. the sentence is :

"the sh*t work of the nitty gritty "

sh*t here is slang for the hard, difficult, thankless ..
misinterpreting is prone to getting reaction from them whose
words are misinterpreted/misrepresented

and passing remarks like "sheer bad taste" .. on any member's
bona fide posts is prone to be viewed as a dpi (direct public
insult) .. never do it .. members can afford this luxury for
other members' remarks .. list admins can't .. they have to be
"proper" .. not insultive !


> Mind you, I'm not objecting to the language per se, but its
application to the
> aforementioned task. Keeping in mind your past efforts which we
all appreciate,
> it is my friendly advice that you choose your words with a
little more care in
> future, specially where you apply them.

since "sh*t" didn't apply to 'meeting' but to the thankless
'nitty gritty' .. this interpretation or rather the confusion
over interpretation is best ignored ..

i learn .. i learn .. at 51 years .. i still learn .. from
friendly advice about applying what words .. and where .. and it
IS nice to note that all appreciate my "past" efforts ..

c'mon list admin .. this is too much advising .. just for being a
member of this list .. how to choose words or apply them .. must
be learnt by me from you .. sorry .. no can do ..

free as in freedom .. remeber .. don't curb mine .. like a head
master rapping the knuckles of an errant junior class student !

let's put this to test :

members are requested to publicly opine if i have chosen wrong
words

..pk



> </donning_list_admin_hat>
>
> > ..pk

<snipped>


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