On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 23:34, Jaybrata Bhattacharyya wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arko Provo Mukherjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "ilug-cal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 2:09 PM > Subject: Re: [ilug-cal] Fw: [LIG] FSF India goes proprietary > > > On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 00:25, Jaybrata Bhattacharyya wrote: > > > > > > 1. GIMP makes logo better than Photoshop. if you have not tried it > then > > > have a look. > > > > That is the personal opinion of the person who made the logo > > this way any comparative statement can marked as personal opinion. > if that is so then making decision will be totally impossible - it will be > total anarchy.
Yes, the decision has been made. At least in this context. FSF has declared that it is going to accept the logos. They have no problem if someone uses non-free software to create the logo. But that is of course not encouraged. But they don't want it in a non-free format. in democratic set-up general consensus is taken as the right > one. but in this case that is not needed. i am challenging you to prove the > contrary to what i have said - "GIMP makes logo better than Photoshop" from > all prospects ;-) Who am I to take up the challenge. Baapre, a challenge with you?!!? :)- You didn't get the point at all. If some one feels that Windows is better than GNU/Linux or BSDs or ..., and he doesn't care about freedom and stuff like that, who are you or I to stop him from using windows. In the same way, if someone feels that Photoshop is better than GIMP and I don't care about my Freedom, then he/she can definitely go for it. The Free community only has to go on giving the people the chance to use Free software by creating the necessary products and encouraging the people to use them. > > > > > > 2. Sporting material produced by proprietary software, specially by > those > > > which have free alternative, carries a negative impression. Would you > like > > > to see linux docs in MS-WORD format? it makes a ridicule of the whole > thing. > > > > It was not the format. It was the tool used that was non-free. It's like > > editing a .txt file with M$ Windows. FSF has no objection to that. It > > wants people to use Free Software, but doesn't force people to do so. > > In the FSF-Freinds list, it was declared that it is not a mistake and > > the volunteer has every right to use the software he wants to use. > > > at the first place i am sorry for giving a bad example [ there is > open office :) ]. but try to understand that i was talking about software, > not file formats. i have yet to see any file format with IP restriction. as > long as there is no such restriction there will be no 'CHOOTMARG' in linux > about using those formats, provided they are supported by FLOSS [ e.g. > postscript and pdf are originally produced by proprietary software, but they > are widely accepted formats on linux, because there are well supported by > FLOSS ]. text files don't carry any meta information. so no one will be able > to make any guess about the software by which they were produced. but do you > need to use M$Word for writing a simple text file? the whole thing is about > the > spirit of FLOSS and public impression. Those two things are damaged most by > this kind of activity. > > > > 3. If someone is not using pirated software, what will be of more > > > importance to him while choosing between a astronomically priced > proprietary > > > solution's ease of use and a free one's cost and future possibilities? > > > > The Free solution might be easy to use too. Why do you rule out that > > possibility. > > > > may be. but after all that doesn't make things anything better for > proprietary software, for which you are advocating ;-) I am advocating Freedom of a person to choose the software he/she wants to use to do a task. I support GNU/Linux and like and love it. But I don't expect that every one on mother earth will like it start using it. So, people and ideas must co-exist. Regards Arko -- To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe ilug-cal" and an empty subject line. FAQ: http://www.ilug-cal.org/node.php?id=3
