On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 04:49 +0530, A. Mani wrote:
> For BF'05, our intention will be promote OSS and linux in particular 
> among people who R/W
> books and may be in DTP or publishing. We can try for some projects too 
> with some of them.

Then why are we inside an IT company stall ? Book publishers are
probably not going to come to Amar PC stall to look for the next machine
they are going to buy to run QuarkXpress ! We should then be looking at
seminars targeted towards publishers, preferably at the Book Fair, but
more likely someplace near College Street.

> >2> Who is the audience?
> >  
> >
> Mixed...cut across classes...We must target everybody. Note that much of 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> the publishing industry is still to come to terms with software.

Impossible !! We simply do not have the manpower and will to target all
sections. We have to take a target audience (I propose we tackle
students this time) and then build awareness about Linux within that
section. Chasing a lot of different sections of people is just going to
waste valuable human resources.

> >3> How do we address them? and
> >
> >4> What do we gain out of this?
> >  
> >
> It will help a lot if we address them from the point of view of 
> publishing...in the broader sense in which it has progressed.  Naturally 
> basic aspects of sanity of OSes come in.

I'm not a publishing expert. If the focus of the LUG is going to be
Linux awareness of the publishers at the Book Fair, I feel my presence
will not be profitable to the LUG in any way, since I cannot contribute
in any way. It's better that this topic came up. If the final decision
is made to address publishers, I'll not add to the crowd in front of the
computers. (Believe me, there will be huge crowds, specially when Free
[as in beer] software is being shown)

> If we have economic plans then we gain directly. If we do a bit in 
> sanitizing world orders, then we gain otherwise we will lose heavily in 
> the future. The BF is a movement. Ours will grow too as a consequence of 
> our participation. We still have some democracy left in the world and 
> must utilise it to annihilate the forces of imperialism in various 
> guises and in various sectors. We can do more petit economic projects if 
> we desire...that is for direct petit gains.

??? 

I'm not a political activist, and I cannot give political speeches.

IMHO, if we really need to target publishers:

1. We need to get people volunteering to work of publishing tools like
Scribus (especially w.r.t. l10n, Indic language support, etc.) This is
because we have to approach the local publishers first. The larger
houses are more likely to ask their durwans to escort us out of the gate
unless we demonstrate our ability to guide and manage transition from an
existing Windows/Mac based environment to Linux. Oh ! Did I tell you
that Scribus has problems rendering Indic scripts AFAIR ??

2. At the cost of angering some members of the community, I suggest we
get over the fixation with Tex. It's fine for technical documents, but
tech docs are not published by ordinary publishers. An trust me, even
Latex is scary enough for non-technical publishers

3. Work out the cost benefits of moving to Linux based production
systems for the publishers, including cost for training and support.
There is also the question of who's going to provide support. I don't
think there will be many people volunteering to go to a publishing house
whenever they face a problem and solve it. What good is a truly free
publishing system, if the publisher can't properly use it to publish the
next book ?

I personally think that instead of targeting publishers in the Book
Fair, where they'll be busy trying to sell as many books as they
possibly can, and instead talk to Publishers' and Booksellers' Guild to
organise a joint seminar for the publishers to promote Linux. Let's
adopt a "horses for course" strategy.

-- 
Soumyadip Modak
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