hello all

as per the decisions that were taken a few meetings before BF2005
(participation of which was seen as a pre-cursor to compass2005
participation), saugata was to co-ordinate expo matters

i got in touch with him off and on .. and kept him apprised of the
developments

it is sad to see almost total absence of interest aside from a few emails in
this list .. except ashwin and one more member, no one turned up at the last
meeting .. nor has there been any emails enquiring about the meetings or
about the need for the meetings

for the record, meetings were to be held every sunday 4.30pm till
compass2005 .. in preparation for particiaption of ilug-cal in compass2005

no one seemed to take up any aspect of particiaption

saugata rightly aired his views

raj mathur had consented to come provided his expenses were taken care of by
compass2005

this made him a compass2005 guest

the lack of any comments/view/initiatives vis a vis his visit is on record
in this list

at the last talk with saugata, i made it clear that if raj mathur is
compass2005 guest, then compass would have to take a stand on how to arrange
his visit

to my question about ilug-cal's stand vis a vis raju mathur during his
visit, saugata was understandbly (with good reason) not clear except that if
raju mathur did come, ilug-cal members would meet him too

unlike atul's hard bargaining for compass2003 stalls, there were no such
moves this time

raj had not indicated 'charging' for talks and/or handing over proceeds of
talks to ilug-cal in the shape of stall(s) .. so this issue never took off
at all

my role had been to present ilug-cal's views before compass exec. comm and
to present compass's views befor ilug-cal so that participation could happen

the lack of support for particiption, especially in view of the questions
about the sense in participating at all are understandable .. but the
off-shot is that except for a few initial offers for 'talks' .. serious
ilug-cal co-ordinated moves were not seen

conclusion :

1. compass prez has little enthusiasm about 'talks' relating to linux
matters
2. ilug-cal has matching lack of enthu about particiaption per se
3. ilug-cal expo co-ordinator also lacks enthu about participation
4. remaining members are like flashes of interest without a
concerted/orchestrated effort
5. raj mathur could only be a compass guest without ilug-cal chipping in as
a group

in view of these, it is almost certain that ilug-cal will be more absent
than present in compass2005

its sad, but this is how things stand

my premises is/was/will be available for 'meetings' .. but it already is
toooo late to have meetings about ilug-cal's particiapting in compass2005
starting 11th march 2005 since we are already on 8th march 2005 night now

only a 'miracle' like development can make particiaption of ilug-cal in
compass2005 happen

it was a good opportunity,

it is almost a missed opportunity

lets keep hoping though that things will change for the better

..pk sharma

(err .. about raj mathur .. ?? .. would it make any difference if he came or
not ? .. with ilug-cal almost not there .. well .. 99% not there ?)


----- Original Message -----
From: "saugata ghosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> when he is comming ?
> -hizibiz
>
> - P. K. Please comfirm this. Keep us updated about
> COMPASS proceedings regarding Raj Mathur's visit.
>
> -Saugata Ghosh
> >
> > On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, saugata ghosh wrote:
> >
> > > 99% we are not participating in COMPASS.





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