hi friends, there is a lot decrease in my confusion, thanks to the efforts.
@ Sebin "try changin distros" is not practical every now and then, when u would like the system to be put to practical purposes. I havent changed the ditro, but installed an ArtistX, which has most of the tools pre insatlled. when it comes to a little twaeking with the help of mailing list, it counts how popular the distro is. Am gonna get an ArchLinux though.thanks. please try answering the core problem, and not with exceptions. i have stated its not the specific technical issue, its the policy and logic. I did put a (*) on 'user' in earlier post,but forgot to explain it there. I meant novices and users of applied software in FOSS Fact: this mailing list is driven by real committed developers (hats off to evrybody of them, and expecting consistent supprt). but begginer / applied users of linux is the majority when we step out into the society. People running to make bread, but are ready to spend a minute for us, who explains our vision about th world, our vision about freedom. Most of these users likes the libre philosophy more, even than the usability of GNU/Linux distros. If linux needs to be adopted by desktop users, it needs to be much more user friendly (nobody argues) @bipin Kumar, thanks,ur comment : "*However techie people who have been using linux for a long time tend give advices involving use of terminals when one asks for help because they are comfortable /accustomed with it" . * expalins it... so how are we going to work it out? developers cant invest all their time in answering. Can we stick to the following approach (these are already stated many places else where, i am not stating any of these as my virgin theories, my problem is a frustration with using an XP which i din pay for, but getting more perspired wen i try switching to FOSS, compromising my performance in my career The absolute problem is illogical policies and wastage of time in dispersed efforts in FOSS arena): *Let Distros like Linux mint be made the most user friendly of the OSes, compromising slight levels of performance.(memory/processor hungry)and distors like Debian be maintained developer friendly with text based efficiency ?* What about making a resolution about the priorities for support to specific distros ? thru ilug-tvm? it seems ubuntu is the main thrust. then why cantilug tvm release a derivative of it own, with ammendments and policies of the list implemented, before Canonical approves it/cant approve for policy reasons? example is the video edit suite Cinelerra, run by Heroine Virtual, but later forked into to derivatives, the The Cinelerra CV(community maintained version and Cinelerra HV by heroine virtual). Cinelerra CV is adopted by professionals, as HV is often late in approving changes. what are the parctical difficulties as far as we, the ilug-tvm and members are concernd? (this is gonna be hot, we have different opinions about Novell and Canonical and others) can we discus the pros and cons here? or in a seperate topic? this shud not divide us, we do it very healthy. I would like to support the following view: Evrybody of us tolerate installing the distro which is selected by the mailing list as the supproted distro.( freedom to have a Win or Mac or a Kalyway too remains uncompromised) high perfomance computing can be made practical by switching up to base run levels. At the same time speak to begginers in more readable language,atleast when they specifically make such request? is *Linux Mint* good enuf to meet both end extremes? the user freindlines as well as running at barebones environment?also license issues support availability / reach. *I expect opinions for those text in purple....* *if we dont mind user friendliness, we may face the crowd holding Novell flags day after tomarow.* On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:33 AM, bipin kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > as person using computers from DOS era i will say that linux is user > friendly as any other OS (i've to admit my initial foray into linux > had some difficulties). the percieved lack user friendliness can be > attributed to users understanding of computers. for a person > conditioned in using windows, if he has type a document he will as > "where is microsoft word?" and not word processor same goes for media > players, document viewers etc. as usage of terminals are concerned 99% > of tasks in linux can be done without use of a terminal, However > techie people who have been using linux for a long time tend give > advices involving use of terminals when one asks for help because they > are comfortable/accustomed with it. > > regarding asking for admin password for taking action, increase the > UAC access level higher in vista/win7 and u will see it too will ask > for admin password if u are not logged in as admin in the first place > > Bottom line if you put a novice who hasnt touched a computer in his > life time He/She wil find Linux, windows or Mac OS similar in terms of > user friendliness > > On May 9, 11:21 am, Sebin Jacob <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Nisandh, > > > > Till this day, I haven't once used command line to mount an NTFS external > > drive in my arch linux machine. I have a WD external hard disk, which is > > password protected in windows, but opens up even without asking any > password > > in my arch machine. I had also opened several other external hard disks > in > > this system, most of which were only used before with windows. So your > > problem may not be that generic. Try changing distros man, or at least, > your > > DE. 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