On Saturday 22 Aug 2009 1:40:10 am Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote:
> >>team players are very useful in getting coffee and bajjis - they are
>
> otherwise
>
>   ilugc events like the FOSSE '06, SFD '06 , i enjoyed with the team  as a
> good team player when it mattered the most for physical contribution. I am
> one for getting tea and coffee's for my team.

one must understand the fundamental nature of LUGs in particular and the open 
source world in general. The concepts 'team' and 'democracy' are totally 
different here. What makes Chennai LUG so successful is that we have many 
people with well defined egos who do not fear to take initiative. They dive 
into projects without looking back to see if the 'team' is following them. If 
a call comes, they answer. They ask for help and volunteers, but do not start 
whining and abandon the project if there is no help or volunteers. Open source 
projects are the same - thousands contribute to the linux kernel, but one man 
decides. If Linus does not sign off on a commit - it does not appear in the 
kernel. Anyone can express an opinion, but those who contribute more are more 
likely to be heard. 

The concept of a team with each member having a defined role is unknown to 
FOSS. When someone joins a software project no one tells him what to do or on 
what area he should work. He picks something and does it - if others like it, 
it is accepted. In industry, each person is allotted an area of work and tasks 
to do - and if he does it whether he likes it or not - he is a team player. 
Secondly people are supposed to stick to the area they are allotted and not do 
work allotted to others. Everyone is supposed to specialise. No all rounders 
permitted, or tolerated. If you are made to do testing - do testing, no 
programming allowed. If the code fails a test, you do not repair the code - 
you report the failure to the concerned authority and he gets it repaired. And 
if you do that without grumbling, then you get a tick mark as a team player. 
And if you are ordered to get coffee and bajjis - you do it if it is in your 
allotted area of responsibility - but in a LUG meet no one will dream of 
ordering anyone to get coffee and bajjis. Someone will go and get them, often 
without asking anyone what they want.

I have seen LUGs controlled by one or two people with over blown egos with a 
bunch of followers with no ego at all. Result is that everything depends on 
getting permission from these one or two people. Net result is that the LUG 
does not do much. People get frustrated and leave or split. I have even seen 
one of these people making a junior member carry his laptop for him! That 
junior is a real team player.

As for democracy - one man one vote - it is unknown in this domain. A is a LUG 
member. He gives thoughtful advice on the mailing list, he gives excellent 
well documented talks in meets and has conducted many many LDDs and training 
sessions. B is a new member who is famous for selling his address book to 
social networking sites and spamming the LUG with invitations. His other 
contributions are minimal. No one will suggest that both of them have only one 
vote each. A should have at least 10 votes and B should not be allowed to vote 
at all.

to summarise - no democracy, no team players - a bunch of strong willed 
egoists scratching their itches.
-- 
regards
kg
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