On Mon 02 Aug 04,  4:44 PM, Marc van Gemert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I don't use imacs, so I'm a bare bones newbie...
> > 
> > My mom's hard drive died.  I recovered her data by mounting her drive on
> > my Linux box (after discovering they use IDE; I thought they used SCSI).
> > 
> > Next I bought a 7200rpm 80GB IDE drive and installed it.  It appears to
> > have gone in correctly; I ended up with no orphan screws.  ;-)
> 
> Pete,
> 
> Just a shot in the dark:
> 
> Is this HD a 80GB Western Digital IDE drive? If so to use this HD in a 
> Mac (just like every other new WD HD in a Mac) you have to _remove_ 
> every jumper to make it master.
> 
> HTH,
> Marc

Hi Marc, Jim, Steph, and Eddie,

They were all valiant efforts.  I wanted to thank you all!
Unfortuantely, I tried:

1. Putting the hard drive pin to "master" (it was on cable select).
2. Changing the "startup disk" to the hard drive.
3. Resetting the PRAM

And it didn't do any good.  It is a Western Digital (I think - either
that or a Maxtor).  I haven't tried to remove the pin, but I doubt
that's going to do it.  See below for why (I'll definitely try this
option tonight, just to be sure!)

The system *DOES* boot off the hard drive under the following situation:

   1. Boot off the OS install disk
   2. Click Special | restart

It won't boot if the system is starting "cold" (ie- turning the system
off then back on).  On one of the many rebootings I've done in the past
two days, it once booted into what appears to be some kind of firmware.
It said:

   Default Catch!, code=900 at %SRR0: FF81AB68 %SRR1: 0000B030
   Apple iMac Open firmware 3.0.f10 built on 03/05/99 at 21:14:19
   All rights reserved
   ok
   0>

Yikes.  :)   I'm going to work on a new theory.  Originally, my mom's
hard drive had crashed, taking out much of the HFS filesystem with it.
I was able to recover her data.  The hardest part was figuring out that
there are two flavors of HFS.  The HFS/HFS+ drivers on Linux are still
immature --- I had to download experimental "testing" drivers to be able
to mount her partitions.

Anyway, the working assumption was that the drive just crashed.  It
happens to all of us.  Now, I'm thinking that the drive crashing was
simply a symptom of another problem: the CPU, the RAM or the firmware.
Aside from being underpowered, the imac hardware was impressive, as is
MacOS.  I'd never use anything but Linux, but if Linux didn't exist, I
would definitely opt for MacOS over Windows a million times over.  I
find myself enjoying the OS.  It's a good user-centric OS.  Anyway, what
I'm trying to say, is that this shouldn't be as difficult as it's
turning out to be.  I think the problem isn't with the hard drive; I
think it's somewhere on the motherboard.

So I'll try removing the pin from the hard drive completely, but if
anybody has any other ideas, I'm going to suggest to my Mom that she
take it to an authorized dealer, which is always a pretty penny no
matter WHAT architecture you're talking about!   :-)

I appreciate all your help - you guys are pretty awesome.

Pete

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