>I know there are some issues with RAM in the older machines, so maybe  
>someone can help me out here.....My wife's parents have a Lime 333mhz  
>tray-loader, and when I went to upgrade the RAM so that I could also  
>upgrade them to OSX (from 8.6) I had a couple of issues. First, I had  
>two 256MB sticks that I had previously used in a iBook 600 and in a  
>Lombard 333. So after taking everything apart, I get no startup, just  
>a gray screen. Wouldn't even get to open firmware, wouldn't work with  
>shift down, nothing. Thinking it might be the RAM, I pulled the top  
>stick out and it started up - but only 128MB shows up. I went back in  
>and reseated the RAM chip, buttoned things up not so thoroughly and  
>started up again but still the same 128MB. Tried the other RAM chip  
>there, but the same result. Neither would work in the top slot, btw.  
>So I left it in and put an old 64MB chip into the top slot, which  
>gives them 192MB, a large improvement from the 32 they had. But  
>what's up with the RAM? They both work in a Lombard, which is  
>essentially the same board.....Now she's got another problem with  
>Netscape, so I'd really like to go with the OSX upgrade to make my  
>diagnostic life a little easier. I never ran 8.6 on anything, I went  
>from 8.0 to 9.1 and then X exclusively for the last two years.

The tray load iMacs aren't spec'd to work with 256 MB chips. That said, 
some people have gotten it to work, some haven't. I had good luck with 
it, and had found that as long as you get the correct density ram, and 
you watch that the ram retaining clips don't contact any of the chips on 
the card, then it seemed to work for me. I did several this way. All mine 
were Rev A or Rev B machines.

I recently did it with a 333 tray loader like yours, and I had the same 
results. No boot at all while a 256 MB was in the top slot, and in the 
bottom slot it would only see 128 MB of it. I have the correct density 
chips (they were actually pulled from a Rev A using them to get to 512 
MB), and I checked to be sure the retaining clips weren't shorting 
anything... still no go.

So it looks like my luck in the past was just that... luck... and it ran 
out. Maybe the 333 Apple changed something that stopped it from working 
with 256 chips.

-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>


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