At 7:22 PM -0500 2/11/2009, Charles Davis wrote:
>On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:31 PM, williamd wrote:
>  > Can someone please tell me the difference between HFS+ and HFS+
>>  Journaled? Many thanks.
>
>HFS+ is Apple's standard file system for the recent past.

And is still the current standard.  The journaling is just an add-on, 
as it were.

>HFS+, Journaled, is HFS+ with the 'Write' operation 'enhanced' by 
>first writing out information as to what the write is going to do.

The file system writes a journal entry when *directory* (folder) 
changes are made.  This is faster than re-writing a *whole* directory 
each time.  NO extra writes occur when the data in a *file* is 
changed.

>The 'Journaled' version HAS to be slower, because of the extra steps 
>involved, but it provides
>another level of 'data security'.

The link provided previously in this thread is good, but I disagree 
with the author's conclusions.

Normally, directories are cached in memory and only written to disk 
periodically.  If your directories are large, this can mean looooong 
writes.  With journaling, tiny journal entries are snapped to disk as 
needed.  The whole directory is written far less often .... which is 
a net performance improvement.

>My own decision so far --- Hard Drives ---> Journaled
>Jump drives, Thumb Drives etc.---> HFS+  ONLY

yea.  Do *all* your hard drives HFS+ Journaled.

Doing memory sticks and camera cards as just HFS+ is ok IF you're 
careful enough to never pull them before properly dismounting.  Given 
their inherent error rates, personally, I *want* that journal.  And 
if those journal writes appreciably reduce the cycle life of the 
flash memory, then that stick had other problems.

- Dan.
-- 
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth

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