FYI -
the SMTPSender= (as well as all the others) can be unique to each frontpage
'web'. When you make the settings at the top of the INI , the settings are
global. If you wish to override them , you must make the appropriate
setting within the INI section pertaining to your host.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vaughn Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] A note about Open Relay and usefulness (Front
Page + Other gripes)
>reply is mingled below (look for the stars **)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Gary Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 6:57 PM
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] A note about Open Relay and usefulness (Front
>Page + Other gripes)
>
>
>>
>> > Front Page:
>> > You can have Front Page assign a user name that it will use when
sending
>> > mail. That helps if you only allow "from local domains" or "local
>> addresses
>> > (if from a local address)". In the frontpg.ini do
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> First, if I'm a host administrator, what's the person who administers the
>> server called? ( I may have just figured that out.)
>
>** In the IMAIL world they are called the IMAIL "system administrators".
> each host (or virtual host can be managed by a sub or host
>administrator.
>>
>> Anyway, if I can get that frontpg.ini "SMTPSender=" thing done for me by
>> the
>> " person who runs the server" dude, and that particular
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] was the address of the moderator of a mailing
>> list,
>> then I could create a FrontPage form on my website that would relay
>> submissions from "guests" - and the IMail List Server would accept them,
>> right?
>>
>** Technically yes. That setting in the Frontpg.ini on a web server that
>supports Front Page would make that change Global to all hosts. You would
>likely need your own dedicated server and leased line or at least a
>dedicated box at your ISP to get that done for you. Hey, that is not
beyond
>the realm of possibility... probably your ISP would consider something
like
>letting you supply your own box for a few extra bucks a month to cover
shelf
>space and electricity??? Then you could get that level of customization.
>
>> Even if it were a "moderator only" list, right? (In that case I might
>> password protect the form, and enable a few "vice-moderators".)
>>
>> But would that frontpg.ini setting prevent imailsrv.pl from spoofing the
>> subscribers email address when it sends commands to a list?
>>
>** settings in the Frontpg.ini only dictate how front page acts. The
>IMAILSRV.PL relies on PERL which is not related to the Front Page
>extensions. It is another runtime like Java's "Virtual Machine".
>
>> Gary Mauer
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Host/Moderator of the Window Cleaning Network
>> - Your People, Product and Information Site -
>> http://www.window-cleaning-net.com/
>>
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Vaughn Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 12:56 PM
>> Subject: [IMail Forum] A note about Open Relay and usefulness (Front Page
>+
>> Other gripes)
>>
>>
>> > Front Page:
>> > You can have Front Page assign a user name that it will use when
sending
>> > mail. That helps if you only allow "from local domains" or "local
>> addresses
>> > (if from a local address)". In the frontpg.ini do
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> > There is the question of, being an ISP how do you provide services to a
>> wide
>> > range of customer types and give them the flexibility they need while
>> trying
>> > to stay off of these damned "Orbiters", "Asteroids", and whatever other
>> > list? I think this is a place where some accountability is in order
not
>> a
>> > group of putz-weenies who want to power down the e-mail world to stop
>> > spammers. Highways bring speeders, Oceans breed sharks, Big Cities
have
>> > high crime.... should we close the highways that lead to big cities,
>> Oceans,
>> > and fine anyone who we discover has people driving across thier yards
in
>> the
>> > middle of the night?
>> >
>> > I for one am glad that IMAIL does not support the Black Holers,
>Orbiters,
>> > MAPSI's or any other gang of "need a lifers" that want to tell us how
to
>> run
>> > our mail systems. I have restrictions in place. I monitor and pursue
>> > Spammers with bats if necessary, but I will not yield to the will of a
>> > "behaviour modifications system" bent on reducing functionality in the
>> name
>> > of increasing security. There will be no need for security if the
>> Internet
>> > Mail system is not functional. No one will want to use it!
>> >
>> > Resist the temptation to yield to cowardly isolationism and fight SPAM
>> head
>> > on. One dork at a time you can nail them good. I need to allow some
>> > outside traffic so as not to inconvenience my customers and if you use
>my
>> > few cracks to squeeze your mail through, I will send a follow up
message
>> > with your phone number on it to all of my users telling them that you
>> want
>> > to give them a new car, a few pounds of gold, or a free vacation to the
>> > tropics. Like answering the phone all day for nothing? Or maybe I
will
>> > track down your family and call your mother and tell her what you do to
>> make
>> > a living (with a little color added). That protects me from SPAM in a
>> big
>> > way. I am serious, I have done this and continue to do so. This is no
>> > different than when a loud teenager in my niegborhood comes home with
>his
>> > radio blaring at 3AM. It is a pain to get up, cross the street in my
>> > bathrobe and zap out on a kid in front of his friends, but it is the
>kind
>> of
>> > thing you usually only have to do once. That is behavior modification!
>> >
>> > Vaughn Thurman
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
