I recommend that you revisit the pricing now, before y'all go about
shooting yourself in the foot with a howitzer again, as you did with
the ICS price gouge.

You've already ran off number of ISPs, who continued to support
IPswitch in spite of their non-responsiveness when it came to keeping
Imail reasonably current with competition. Soon, it won't matter what
you charge, since you will have already alienated the ISP market
beyond repair. You may not be able to charge enough to offset that,
either. So, best think long and hard about it, in my opinion, anyway.

Nice try with all the "projected" enhancements, but most of what you
said is already available to us with utilities that other people have
written over the years because IPswitch wasn't responsive.  The rest
is cake dressing or of limited value, if any, to most ISP's.

Nice try also with the suggestion to buy a "bargain basement" SA, to
beat the increase.  That just puts a band aid on a skull fracture.

Our SA expires in October 2006 and we'll have moved to a more
affordable and feature rich platform long before that, if this proves
to be another price gouge. That, you can take to the bank.

Thanks,


Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 8:30:32 AM, Kevin Gillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
KG> Hi Don and William,

KG> Fair comments and can understand the concern.

KG> The pricing is going to be lower in some cases, higher in other, than the
KG> current $695.

KG> As before, Ipswitch-direct can not do discounts beyond the 10% for
KG> Education.  However, our resellers will usually offer the best price as they
KG> have latitude to discount by 10, 20 even 30%.  My direct sales folks may not
KG> like this but, for example, online today an IMail Professional SA can be
KG> purchased for under $500...

KG> http://ostg.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=1246664/

KG> So hunting around, the new "street/actual" pricing for the bottom 3 tiers
KG> will be a lower than today's $695 and higher for the top 2 tiers. And it's
KG> quite alright to purchase the current IMail Pro SA for $695 (or see link
KG> above for better pricing) and you will receive all updates for 12 months at
KG> which time you would pay the new UNL price.

KG> We have a lot of new features coming in the IMail 2006 roadmap (not final
KG> but includes an overhauled web calendaring and scheduling, password rules
KG> including auto expiring passwords, graphical/statistical reporting (e.g. top
KG> senders/receivers by domain, reports/analysis on mailboxes, etc), archiving,
KG> etc.) and for those who are willing to give us a shot, the best approach,
KG> for those in the higher tiers, is to purchase an IMail Pro SA today for $695
KG> and then you'll get the new updates coming next year.  Again, not final, but
KG> we currently have at least 2 updates scheduled for 2006.

>>From the product manager perspective, if the market can't bear the new
KG> pricing, it makes perfect business sense for us to revisit!

KG> bye for now,

KG> kg

KG> -----Original Message-----
KG> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KG> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don Brown
KG> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:09 AM
KG> To: [email protected]
KG> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Web Messaging... Coming Soon, Real Soon...


KG> I smell a price increase for current "Unlimited" Imail customers in
KG> Kevin's post, quoted below. We just had an price increase as a result
KG> of the ICS fiasco which ran off several Imail customers. I sure hope
KG> they don't step in it again and run more of us off to other
KG> alternatives.

KG>   "Monday, October 31, 2005, 8:13:02 PM, Kevin Gillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
KG> wrote:
KG>   Also note that IMail Secure will be offered at 5 user levels,
KG>   whereas today, it's only offered as Unlimited.

KG>   Price points will be announced in a month (can't really disclose
KG>   publicly until resellers have been notified) but the basic
KG>   philosophy is to allow customers to more accurately pay for what
KG>   they are using versus having all customer paying for unlimited
KG>   users and domains."

KG> Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 7:24:38 AM, Matrosity Hosting
KG> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
MH>> I may have overlooked an email but if we have an active service
MH>> agreement then we should be entitled to whatever version of the software
MH>> we are licensed for.

MH>> Bill

MH>> Bruce Barnes wrote:

>>>Bill,
>>>
>>>I hope you are going to consider those of us who paid for, and have kept
KG> up
>>>our service agreements for, unlimited licenses when you create your new
>>>pricing structure!
>>>
>>>If Ipswitch causes those of us who have been long-time customers, with
>>>unlimited licensed versions, to fork over significantly more money to keep
>>>the unlimited licensing, that will cause a whole new set of problems for
KG> us
>>>and cause us to start re-thinking all of those other companies who's
>>>products we downloaded evaluation versions of and have continued to
KG> monitor
>>>during the last year and a half.
>>>
>>>Bruce Barnes
>>>ChicagoNetTech Inc
>>>Chicago IL
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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