Hi,

Roots don't count?  Has it always been that way?  We have a lot of domains
that have just one mail box -- root (with an alias, of course).  So I could
have, say, 1000 domains with just the root acount, and then have another 20
accounts with one extra (non-root) mailbox each, and I'd be eligable for the
25 user license, even though I've really got 1020 users sending/receiving
email?

Thanks,

Ben

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Gillis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 5:56 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing


> Hi All,
>
> Good and important question Dan.
>
> It turns out that you are in fact correct.  This means your 170 users,
> across 24 domains, do all count towards your 250 limit and that you are
> using the correct product (sorry, means you can't downgrade to the 100).
>
> I dug into this some more and it looks like it was I that miscounted! The
> definition of a user (someone that can send, regardless if by POP,
IMAP/Web)
> is correct but the count is based on all users, totaled, across all of
your
> domains.  So you do have unlimited aliases, lists and domains but not
users.
> Sorry for the confusion.  Note that Root does NOT count as a user.
>
> For more details, check out:
> http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IC-20050203-DM01.htm  but here's the
summary
> for IMail, Instant Messaging and Collaboration.
>
> ***START LICENSING***
>
> In IMail, a "user" is an actual email account that is capable of receiving
> email messages. Aliases are not considered users. Aliases only act as
> forwarders to real email accounts and are not counted towards the license.
> (Also, "Root" is NOT counted as a user.)
>
> In Ipswitch Instant Messaging, a user is an ID that is capable of logging
on
> to the server to send IM messages. Even though all your users may not be
> active at once, if the ID exists in your users database, then the ID is
> counted as a user.
>
> In Workgroup Share, a user is an account that you create in WGS Manager
that
> is capable of sharing or viewing other user's information.
>
> Example:
>
> If you own a 250 user ICS version you are capable of creating 250 users in
> each of the modules of ICS. This license is NOT a combination of the
> modules, (i.e. IMail 150, WGS 50, IIM 50). Instead, the license allows you
> to create 250 users in each of the modules (i.e. IMail 250, WGS 250, IIM
> 250).
>
> ***END LICENSING***
>
> bye for now,
>
> kg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Barker
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing
>
>
> Kevin, what happens if you miss-count? Does IMail stop, complain, certain
> users don't work, what?
>
> I'd always counted all users (170) in all domains (24), requiring a 250
User
> license. Are you saying I can use the 25 user license (actually, I can't -
> 31 users in one domain - but a nice try<g>).
>
> Do the automatically created users count? (root), disabled accounts?
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Gillis
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:29 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing
>
>
> Hello Jacques,
>
> It's actually a little more lenient than that.
>
> You can't have more than 25 users in any single domain.  So you could have
> up to 25 in each of your 3 domains, if you so desired, simultaneously,
> equating to 75 users total.
>
> bye for now,
>
> kg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jacques
> Brouwers
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:36 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing
>
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Thanks for the info. So if I have this correct I could use the 25 user
> license with 3 domains so long as I don't go over 25 mailboxes combined
> between all three domains?  In my set up two of the domains I just
> forward to an exchange server with ~180 aliases and there is only one
> administrative box with web access for each domain.  The third domain
> has only 18 mailboxes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jacques
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Gillis
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:29 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Good question.
>
> Correct, there is no limit on Domains on IMail Server 2006.  Aliases do
> not
> count as users, so you can have unlimited Domains, Aliases and Lists.
>
> A single user can have POP and IMAP and Web access and it counts as 1
> user.
> A user is, technically, anyone that can both send AND receive email. An
> alias can receive but can't send and hence does not count as a user.
>
> bye for now,
>
> kg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Barker
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing
>
>
> Finally, they've said what they mean! Hurray!
>
> Now, if they'd define the term "user", that would be nice. I appears
> that
> there is no limit on domains (although I'd prefer to see it specifically
> stated), but does an Alias count? does a List count? Is a user "the
> number
> of pop3 logins in any 24-hour period? What?
>
> My site might need 100, 250 or 1000 user pricing, depending on how they
> count.
>
> Dan Barker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ipswitch, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: New IMail 2006 Pricing
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> With the upcoming release of IMail Server 2006,
> Ipswitch will be re-introducing IMail as a
> standalone product with new tiered pricing. To
> see the new pricing, visit our IMail preview page:
>
> http://www.ipswitch.com/IMailPricing
>
> Through November 28, you may be able to save money
> and receive a 3 month extension by purchasing the
> existing one-year Service Agreement at the current
> rate of $695. (Your serial number: IP-00400708)
>
> Visit our web site for details:
>
> http://www.ipswitch.com/IMailPricing
>
> Your serial number is IP-00400708.
>
> With an active Service Agreement, you'll receive a free
> upgrade to IMail Server 2006 with unlimited users, lists
> and domains. IMail Server 2006 will include new web
> messaging, web administration and more.
>
> Purchase and activate a new IMail Professional Service
> Agreement before Nov. 28, 2005 and we'll also give you
> an additional 3 months of service -- free! If you
> already have a Service Agreement, you can renew your
> existing agreement today and extend your service
> period by a total of fifteen months.
>
> Happy holidays,
> The IMail Team
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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