Hello Ben, Very intriguing configuration.
Well, the answer is that what you described below is legal. It may be a little cumbersome but it's legal. Root does not count as one of the users but is automatically created and disabled by default. bye for now, kg -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Imail Admin Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing Hi, Roots don't count? Has it always been that way? We have a lot of domains that have just one mail box -- root (with an alias, of course). So I could have, say, 1000 domains with just the root acount, and then have another 20 accounts with one extra (non-root) mailbox each, and I'd be eligable for the 25 user license, even though I've really got 1020 users sending/receiving email? Thanks, Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Gillis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 5:56 AM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing > Hi All, > > Good and important question Dan. > > It turns out that you are in fact correct. This means your 170 users, > across 24 domains, do all count towards your 250 limit and that you are > using the correct product (sorry, means you can't downgrade to the 100). > > I dug into this some more and it looks like it was I that miscounted! The > definition of a user (someone that can send, regardless if by POP, IMAP/Web) > is correct but the count is based on all users, totaled, across all of your > domains. So you do have unlimited aliases, lists and domains but not users. > Sorry for the confusion. Note that Root does NOT count as a user. > > For more details, check out: > http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IC-20050203-DM01.htm but here's the summary > for IMail, Instant Messaging and Collaboration. > > ***START LICENSING*** > > In IMail, a "user" is an actual email account that is capable of receiving > email messages. Aliases are not considered users. Aliases only act as > forwarders to real email accounts and are not counted towards the license. > (Also, "Root" is NOT counted as a user.) > > In Ipswitch Instant Messaging, a user is an ID that is capable of logging on > to the server to send IM messages. Even though all your users may not be > active at once, if the ID exists in your users database, then the ID is > counted as a user. > > In Workgroup Share, a user is an account that you create in WGS Manager that > is capable of sharing or viewing other user's information. > > Example: > > If you own a 250 user ICS version you are capable of creating 250 users in > each of the modules of ICS. This license is NOT a combination of the > modules, (i.e. IMail 150, WGS 50, IIM 50). Instead, the license allows you > to create 250 users in each of the modules (i.e. IMail 250, WGS 250, IIM > 250). > > ***END LICENSING*** > > bye for now, > > kg > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Barker > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing > > > Kevin, what happens if you miss-count? Does IMail stop, complain, certain > users don't work, what? > > I'd always counted all users (170) in all domains (24), requiring a 250 User > license. Are you saying I can use the 25 user license (actually, I can't - > 31 users in one domain - but a nice try<g>). > > Do the automatically created users count? (root), disabled accounts? > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Gillis > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing > > > Hello Jacques, > > It's actually a little more lenient than that. > > You can't have more than 25 users in any single domain. So you could have > up to 25 in each of your 3 domains, if you so desired, simultaneously, > equating to 75 users total. > > bye for now, > > kg > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jacques > Brouwers > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing > > > Hi Kevin, > > Thanks for the info. So if I have this correct I could use the 25 user > license with 3 domains so long as I don't go over 25 mailboxes combined > between all three domains? In my set up two of the domains I just > forward to an exchange server with ~180 aliases and there is only one > administrative box with web access for each domain. The third domain > has only 18 mailboxes. > > Thanks, > > Jacques > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Gillis > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing > > Hi Dan, > > Good question. > > Correct, there is no limit on Domains on IMail Server 2006. Aliases do > not > count as users, so you can have unlimited Domains, Aliases and Lists. > > A single user can have POP and IMAP and Web access and it counts as 1 > user. > A user is, technically, anyone that can both send AND receive email. An > alias can receive but can't send and hence does not count as a user. > > bye for now, > > kg > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Barker > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IMail Forum] New IMail 2006 Pricing > > > Finally, they've said what they mean! Hurray! > > Now, if they'd define the term "user", that would be nice. I appears > that > there is no limit on domains (although I'd prefer to see it specifically > stated), but does an Alias count? does a List count? Is a user "the > number > of pop3 logins in any 24-hour period? What? > > My site might need 100, 250 or 1000 user pricing, depending on how they > count. > > Dan Barker > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ipswitch, Inc. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: New IMail 2006 Pricing > > > Greetings, > > With the upcoming release of IMail Server 2006, > Ipswitch will be re-introducing IMail as a > standalone product with new tiered pricing. To > see the new pricing, visit our IMail preview page: > > http://www.ipswitch.com/IMailPricing > > Through November 28, you may be able to save money > and receive a 3 month extension by purchasing the > existing one-year Service Agreement at the current > rate of $695. (Your serial number: IP-00400708) > > Visit our web site for details: > > http://www.ipswitch.com/IMailPricing > > Your serial number is IP-00400708. > > With an active Service Agreement, you'll receive a free > upgrade to IMail Server 2006 with unlimited users, lists > and domains. IMail Server 2006 will include new web > messaging, web administration and more. > > Purchase and activate a new IMail Professional Service > Agreement before Nov. 28, 2005 and we'll also give you > an additional 3 months of service -- free! If you > already have a Service Agreement, you can renew your > existing agreement today and extend your service > period by a total of fifteen months. > > Happy holidays, > The IMail Team > > > > > > > > __________________________________________ > Ipswitch occasionally sends out marketing messages to our > mailing list. 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