Mike, I think that it is much less likely that there is "something up with SpamCop" then there is "something up" with your iMail installation, server or network. If SpamCop was suddenly blacklisting the entire Internet, you'd find not only this mailing list deluged with complaints about it, but pretty much every other mailing list that mail admins subscribe to. I've not heard a peep about anything being wrong with their servers lately.
I would also have to agree with the other admins here who have advised against using SpamCop as a single test for deletion. While I find it an accurate enough list for REJECTION of e-mails, deletion is another thing altogether. Unfortunately, Imail won't let you do any type of rejection at the envelope level. If you already have MxGuard, you would be much better off using that as a tool for tagging RBLs. To be honest, about the only RBL that I would even consider using for instant deletion is one of my own creation, or perhaps china.blackholes.us, as long as you don't mind losing all e-mails from China (I don't, but that's just me). William Van Hefner Network Administrator Vantek Communications, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Odryna Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop We use our own DNS and the records point to the correct IP. The other strange thing is when this first started all mail was being flagged as bad and deleted. Then without me changing anything the Spamcop Bounce and header was being added. Then about an hour later just IP failures again. That's when we removed it from our list of BL servers. That's what makes me thinks something's up with Spamcop. What are the chances of there IP being masked and the queries being redirected somewhere else? We have MXGuard and Clamav running on our server. But we use IMail spam filters as well. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 12:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SpamCop Do you use your own DNS or a providers DNS? I have heard of providers in the past setup a spamcop zone and return 127.0.0.2 for any query. I have also seen other providers (AT&T) return nothing. Darrell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, mxGuard, and Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Odryna To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:29 AM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop No we don't have a front or back end gateway. If I set Spamcop in IMail as a list to check it is still reporting almost every email as spam. I had to delete it entirely. The strange part is that it reports to my mail server that an IP address is blacklisted but when I check it through the web Spamcop gives me a different answer. It is almost as if my IMail server is being directed to another list???????????? Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SpamCop I would not recommend that setup at all (delete with spamcop). Spamcop currently has gmail servers listed. Last week AOL and earthlink was listed. Spamcop is notorious for listing big ISP's mail servers. Don't get me wrong its a great test when used in a weighting system. In regards to your issue do you have a front end gateway that sends mail to your server? Could that be listed? Darrell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, mxGuard, and Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Odryna To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:39 AM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop They are in the trusted list for immediate deletion. After looking at the logs further I noticed that SpamCop reported every query from my mail server as listed. Has anyone seen this before? I have been looking at there newsgroups and there is mention of their service being down. Mike Odryna Lakespeed.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 3:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SpamCop 1st question. Why are you deleting based on one blacklist? John T eServices For You -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Odryna Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IMail Forum] Spamcop We had a problem and I was hoping that someone could shed some insight as to what may have caused the issue. We had Spamcop set in the filters as a trusted list with automatic delete. Yesterday at about 2am edt mail stopped getting delivered. I checked the server from the outside and all looked fine. Then I started looking at the logs. Mail was being accepted as inbound then when the spam check was done, it would check Spamcop and fail to connect. After the connection failed the mail was automatically deleted. The strange part is that the spam check did not fail, only the connection to Spamcop did. Why would mail be deleted when the connection to Spamcop failed? 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