It falls back to the same problem: the email system is fundamentally flawed.
The idea of a fee to make sure email from your server can get to the big boy
email servers isn't that far fetched.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ronald E.
Kushner
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Comcast "Liar Rule" SMTP HELO


IMail Admin wrote:

> Aside from the fact that it would seem you are condemning your own
> Imail installation, there is a more practical problem here: there are
> a large number of mail servers (Imail, possibly some others) that
> report different domain names during the HELO for the same IP.  It is
> simply not practical to expect all of these people to upgrade, no
> matter how desirable it might be. So even if we all agreed with
> Comcast in philosophy, there implementation is arrogant and
> short-sighted.
>
> Why would it be so hard for them to use this as a weighted test?  That
> way, a properly configured Imail serve would fail this one test but
> not be blacklisted.  A spammer would also fail other tests, and would
> get blacklisted.

Look at it from their side. We (Comcast) block this from going on and
maybe 25,000 e-mails a day are lost... But we also stop 50,000,000 junk
mail messages from coming through from junk mailers that display very
similar traits to what IMail does.

What would you do?  Sure it seems pointy headed but they are dealing
with really really big numbers and the IMail installed base looks like a
rounding error to them. Think of it this way, one hour of incoming
e-mail from Hotmail exceeds a week of incoming e-mail from IMail servers.

This is why I'm a firm believer that small systems should just outsource
their e-mail. It'd be cheaper than paying for maintenance on IMail and
all the Rolaids people like Comcast cause to be consumed. Just wait
until Crazy Ed over at at&t wants you to to pay protection money just to
almost guarantee delivery of e-mail from your system to their system.

-Ron

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