I had a problem with duplicate emails today. It ended up being Outlook.exe
was somehow loaded twice. Both instances were downloading messages at nearly
the same time. How it got loaded twice I do not know. One had the GUI
visible and the other did not.



Kevin Bilbee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Gillis
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:26 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple times
>
>
> hello doug,
>
> i checked in with TS and it appears that we are not seeing/hearing much
> chatter on this one.  are the duped messages being duped once or twice or
> more?
>
> can other folks share any insights as to whether you are seeing
> this on pop
> accounts?  if we can access a few accounts to reproduce, then we have a
> better shot at resolving.
>
> bye for now,
>
> kg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Douglas A.
> White
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 4:34 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple times
>
>
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Any word on the folks in "TS" on POP3 duplicate downloading?  Just got
> off the phone with another user who had to clean up 220 newly
> re-downloaded messages.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Gillis
> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:01 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple times
> >
> > hello douglas, brian and all,
> >
> > so your end users are seeing lots of dupes when popping -
> > looks like several others are too.  i'll check around and see
> > what we are hearing in TS.
> >
> > "Yet they still have hiccups wherein they end up downloading
> > duplicates of all the mail in their inbox again.  They use
> > Outlook, Outlook Express, Eudora and whatever Mac ships on
> > OS-X these days respectively.  It usually happens a couple of
> > times a week, seemingly at random.
> >
> > This happened less frequently under 8.21 and seems to happen
> > more frequently under 8.22."
> >
> > bye for now,
> >
> > kg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Douglas A.
> > White
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:06 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple times
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Brian, did you ever get an acceptable answer for this?  I
> > also was sent the knowledgebase article on what might cause
> > the multiple download problem and we are in compliance.
> >
> > We're running Imail 8.22 and I have a VERY light load on our
> > mail server.  It only serves about 20 users, with the
> > majority of the load being serving some 25 list serves.  We
> > only process about 1000 or so messages a day across all the domains.
> >
> > Anyway, the users have checked their POP3 email polling
> > frequency and we've determined that nobody checks their
> > mailbox more than every 20 minutes.  Yet they still have
> > hiccups wherein they end up downloading duplicates of all the
> > mail in their inbox again.  They use Outlook, Outlook
> > Express, Eudora and whatever Mac ships on OS-X these days
> > respectively.  It usually happens a couple of times a week,
> > seemingly at random.
> >
> > This happened less frequently under 8.21 and seems to happen
> > more frequently under 8.22.
> >
> > If I thought Imail 2006 would fix the problem, I would
> > probably upgrade as it's covered under our SA.  But with the
> > issues presented on this list about it, I'm holding off.
> >
> > Anybody at IPSwitch listening????
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Brian Hruska
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:30 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple times
> > >
> > > Thanks for the feedback.  Cannot say exactly which version
> > it started
> > > on, but was never a problem till this last year.  My admin program
> > > about box says I'm on 8.21.
> > >
> > > In my situation, it is not the issue of setting Outlook's automatic
> > > checking for email too often.
> > >
> > > I will try restarting Webmail next time it happens.
> > >
> > > Any other suggestions would be welcome.  I've been hoping to do the
> > > upgrade to 2006 with the idea that it might take care of
> > it, but I'm
> > > scared to with all the discussion here.  Think I'll wait for a few
> > > more patch versions!
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Thomas - Mathbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple times
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > This has been discussed before. You might want to search
> > > the archives. I
> > > > personally have seen this issue on Versions 8.15 and older
> > > versions under
> > > > two conditions:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The user has their Outlook/Outlook Express set to check
> > > email every
> > > > minute or every three minutes. Then they get a large
> > > download with a lot
> > > > of
> > > > files, the total of which requires longer to download than
> > > the check email
> > > > cycle. Before they can finish downloading, OE checks for
> > > new email. Since
> > > > the first cycle has not completed, the emails that have
> > > been downloaded
> > > > have
> > > > not been marked as read, which only happens when all emails
> > > have been
> > > > read.
> > > > After the second cycle has started, the whole thing
> > > snowballs even deeper.
> > > > In this case, have the user set their check for new mail
> > > cycle time to a
> > > > reasonable value. Note that I have seen this issue with
> > > users on a 256KB
> > > > T1
> > > > with large downloads and a check cycle of one minute.
> > > >
> > > > 2. The WebMail service is hosed. Stop and restart the
> > > WebMail service. If
> > > > the problem is not item 1 above, then stopping and starting
> > > the WebMail
> > > > service usually fixes the problem. Don't ask me what the
> > > WebMail service
> > > > has
> > > > to do with POP3. I do not know, but it works. To understand
> > > that, you
> > > > would
> > > > have to ask Ipswitch.
> > > >
> > > > Note that I am currently running 8.22 and that I have not
> > > seen this issue
> > > > since upgrading to 8.22. That doesn't mean that I won't see
> > > it in the
> > > > future.  On the otherhand, I did not see it all that
> > often on 8.15.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Imail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:37 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple times
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This problem started for us with v8.2.  So far it has only been a
> > > > problem with the clients that use Eudora.  It got a little better
> > > > with Eudora by changing the number of threads but still
> > comes around
> > > > from
> > > time to time.
> > > >
> > > > We haven't seen it with any of our Outlook or Outlook Express.
> > > >
> > > > I can't say that it was caused by huge emails or
> > disconnects since
> > > > one of the people that has the issue is me using Eudora
> > at my home.
> > > > I attach large files regularly and only had the disconnect on the
> > > > upload not the download side.  I've tried many different
> > things and
> > > > the only one that seems to help is keeping the inbox empty.
> > > >
> > > > I tend to believe the problem is in Imail's pop, not the clients.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 01:13 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I would say it is not a mal-formed email, just a huge one from my
> > > >>experience.  It is usually a dial-up account in my experience
> > > >>though.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks,
> > > >>Grant Griffith
> > > >>Web Application Developer
> > > >>Enhanced Telecommunications Corp.
> > > >>(812)932-1000
> > > >>
> > > >>----------
> > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > Brian Hruska
> > > >>Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:12 PM
> > > >>To: [email protected]
> > > >>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple times
> > > >>
> > > >>So you believe it was a specific mal-formed email?  I spoke with
> > > >>tech support, and after analyzing the pop3 log they said
> > it looked
> > > >>like the connection was getting terminated via the
> > firewall or other
> > > >>non-imail mechanism.  I know its not hardware, cables,
> > etc.  I have
> > > >>seen the problem stop at all sorts of different emails,
> > not always a
> > > specific one.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>John Carter
> > > >>To:
> > > <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
> > > >>Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 12:47 PM
> > > >>Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple times
> > > >>
> > > >>We have seen the same thing across our network.
> > > >>Most of the time we have been able to log in by webmail,
> > delete the
> > > >>offending message, and rock on with Outlook. (Yes, it usually is
> > > >>some stupid joke email.)  Once when that didn't work, we had to
> > > >>delete
> > > the inbox.
> > > >>
> > > >>John C
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>----------
> > > >>From:
> > > >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Imail_Forum-owne
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > .com
> > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > Brian Hruska
> > > >>Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:37 AM
> > > >>To: [email protected]
> > > >>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple
> > times No,
> > > >>this is actually on the internal network so there's no
> > performance
> > > >>delay at all.  Often its when there are large quantities
> > of emails
> > > >>to download, and it hangs up part way through it.  Then when you
> > > >>retry, it does it again and never
> > > deletes the messages.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Grant
> > > Griffith - IMail
> > > >>To:
> > > <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
> > > >>Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:23 AM
> > > >>Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple times
> > > >>
> > > >>Yep, I have seen this multiple times on a dial-up
> > connection.  Too
> > > >>many people sending huge joke
> > > emails anymore.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks,
> > > >>Grant Griffith
> > > >>Web Application Developer
> > > >>Enhanced Telecommunications Corp.
> > > >>(812)932-1000
> > > >>
> > > >>----------
> > > >>From:
> > > >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Imail_Forum-owne
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > .com
> > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Matrosity
> > > >>Hosting
> > > >>Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 12:11 PM
> > > >>To: [email protected]
> > > >>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Messages Downloading multiple times
> > > >>
> > > >>sounds like they're on dialup and got a large message that isn't
> > > >>downloading fast enough?
> > > >>
> > > >>Brian Hruska wrote:
> > > >>Been on iMail for many years, and lately I've got a
> > number of users
> > > >>who's messages download over and over.  It seems to be a problem
> > > >>with Outlook or Outlook Express timing out somehow, then
> > redoing the
> > > >>session.  But since its on many more than one machine, and with
> > > >>several email clients, I believe its something server related.
> > > >>
> > > >>Are there settings I should adjust to help solve this?
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks,
> > > >>Brian
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > > >>Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/258 - Release
> > > Date: 2/13/2006
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --------------
> > > > ----
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> > > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/258 - Release
> > > Date: 2/13/2006
> > > >
> > > >
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