Here is the header from the message directly received from her:
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:40:40 -0700
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From: "Liz Jahner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Please note
X-Mailer: <SMTP32 v9.03>
Precedence: bulk
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John Tolmachoff
Owner, eServices For You
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
626-737-6003
Fax 626-737-6004
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Imail_Forum-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hoyt
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 1:22 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Precedence: list & the auto responses
>
> Any "good" email client should suppress autoresponses (and probably
vacation
> messages) to received email that has the Precedence: bulk or list header.
> Her client (or whatever is generating the autoresponses) is inserting the
> Precedence: bulk header in order to let the receiving end know not to send
> an autoresponse to her autoresponse.
>
> She has set up an autoresponse instead of a vacation message as that is
the
> only way that the list would be receiving autoresponses from her that are
> just responses to her autoresponse (this is her mistake-if she had set up
a
> vacation message instead we would have only seen one vacation response
from
> her as it does keep a list of those it has responded to).
>
> But the message we see from the list does not contain her headers-it has
the
> headers that the list server inserts-and the list server is inserting
> "X-Imail: List" instead of "Precedence: list". The lack of the
"Precedence:
> list" header from the list server is what has changed in the last couple
of
> weeks.
>
>
> Michael Hoyt
> Communication Arts
> 110 Constitution Drive
> Menlo Park, CA 94025
> (650) 326-6040 fax:(650) 326-1648
>
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web Site: http://www.commarts.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:43 AM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Precedence: list & the auto responses
>
>
> Actually, this person is using Imail 9.03 and the headers of the notice I
> received directly from her has the proper line indicating a bulk sending.
>
> This is from the headers of a notice I received directly (since I have an
> Outlook rule forwarding all her stupid notices.)
>
> X-Mailer: <SMTP32 v9.03>
> Precedence: bulk
>
> To me, this indicates 2 things: She has it set up as an auto responder and
> it is looping since she then gets the notice via the list and the latest
> version of the list server is striping the "Precedence: bulk" line and
> inserting "X-Imail: List" in its place.
>
> Comments from Ipswitch?
>
> John T
> eServices For You
>
> "Seek, and ye shall find!"
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Imail_Forum-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hoyt
> > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:45 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Precedence: list & the auto responses
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matti Haack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Michael Hoyt" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Precedence: list & the auto responses
> >
> >
> > >
> > > MH> Hey Tyran, nice catch on the Precedence header!
> > > Looks like nobody at ipswitch cares about this as the fact
> > > was discovered already one week before... Or they are unable
> > > to solve it...
> >
> > They seem to be satisfied with just removing the vacationing members
from
> > the list.
> >
> > > "Precedence: bulk" is missing in the mail headers.
> >
> > They do have a header: "X-IMail: List" but I don't think the email
clients
> > know what to do with this.
> >
> > > As I didn't dare to update to 2006, can anybody check if
> > > this is an issue with the latest version of Imail or just
> > > with the build Ipswitch uses for this list?
> > > Matti
> > Way to poke 'em in the eye.
> >
> > Michael Hoyt
> > Communication Arts
> > 110 Constitution Drive
> > Menlo Park, CA 94025
> > (650) 326-6040 fax:(650) 326-1648
> >
> > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Web Site: http://www.commarts.com
> >
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