That's a ridiculous position for Yahoo to take.

I have about 300 mail domains. I'm supposed to burn 300 IPs on my mail server? 

Sheer insanity.

-Dave Doherty
 Skywaves, Inc.
 97 Webster Street
 Worcester, MA 01603
 508-425-7176

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Imail 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces


  I found this response on a forum someplace about the same problem.  Yahoo 
apparently responded.  I do not know if this is accurate or not but I do know 
that those clients of ours that have their own IP are not having problems, yet. 
 I have read of individual companies having the same problem using Exchange but 
cannot verify their email configurations to tell why.


  "Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail.

  We cannot systematically exempt your mailings from our SpamGuard technology 
since the IP address of the server appears to be a shared domain mail host and 
have multiple clients sending email. We will maintain the current information 
in our database as it is configured. 

  This allows delivery of your mailings to oscillate between the Inbox and the 
Bulk Mail folder as Yahoo! users choose.

  Please keep in mind that our SpamGuard technology will continually monitor 
user feedback pertaining to emails coming from your mail server(s), and as 
such, the user feedback we receive will be one of the factors that influence 
where your emails are most appropriately delivered. Our studies have indicated 
that when users see messages incorrectly categorized, they notify us within 
hours of delivery. 

  We do recommend that if you maintain several clients or company lists 
(especially for an ISP/ASP/ESP) to segregate your clients to different IP 
addresses. This ensures that users are marking each company on its own merits. 
User notifications to us may become hazy should they see both spam and 
legitimate mail from the same IP. In cases like these, the end result will 
likely be that spam will override the legitimate mail.

  If you implement significant changes to your mailing practices, feel free to 
contact us again. You may refer to the Help page below for some information and 
general guidelines that we have found to be effective in maintaining good 
mailing lists:"





  At 09:21 PM 5/20/2007, you wrote:

    Sounds like Yahoo is graylisting.

    -Dave Doherty
     Skywaves, Inc.
     97 Webster Street
     Worcester, MA 01603
     508-425-7176
     

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Krishna 

      To: [email protected] 

      Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 9:52 PM

      Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces


      I had the same problem few months back, Yahoo server treats all emails as 
spam and rejects the emails however if the same email is being resent then it 
goes through so make sure in your email server you set to re-try for 20 to 30 
times.



      After i did this all yahoo emails are going trhough.



      Regards

      Krishna

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Jeff Hitchcock 

        To: [email protected] 

        Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:33 PM

        Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces


        Seeing the same thing. Endless problems with Yahoo.



        Their "tech support" has been less than helpful.


        Jeff Hitchcock - [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imail

        Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:25 PM

        To: [email protected]

        Subject: [IMail Forum] Yahoo bounces


        I've been getting this from email going to Yahoo accounts for the last 
3 weeks or so.


        421 Message from (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. 
Please refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html


        Some of the email that's going to them ends up in the Bulk folder and 
some just doesn't make it at all.


        I get this from dnsreport.com


            Mail

            FAIL

            Connect to mail servers

            ERROR: I could not complete a connection to one or more of your 
mailservers:

            ERROR: c.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421 
Message from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to 
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

            ERROR: f.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421 
Message from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to 
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

            ERROR: g.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421 
Message from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to 
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

            ERROR: b.mx.mail.yahoo.com Greeting indicates server is down: 421 
Message from (66.36.241.109) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to 
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html .

            c.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO 
test.DNSreport.com ]

            f.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO 
test.DNSreport.com ]

            g.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO 
test.DNSreport.com ]

            b.mx.mail.yahoo.com: Timed out [Last data sent: HELO 
test.DNSreport.com ]




        I've tried emailing their support folks and get the standard automated 
response about getting back to me within 48 hours.  Of course, they haven't 
responded yet.


        Any ideas?


        Mark 

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