You know... I've been reporting this Robert Allen knucklehead for some
time now (to the FCC) and it seems the Federal Gov may have other fish
to fry than care about proper internet etiquette (opt outs being
honored etc) , even if it's their own laws. Is anyone else getting
overwhelms by Robert Allen emails that not even MessageSniffer cares
enough to write a rule to block?
On Dec 19, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Bruce Barnes wrote:
If you go and look at the Federal anti-spam laws they succinctly
state that
anyone having a PRIOR RELATIONSHIP with a customer may contact them
in any
manner - without prior permission and it is not spamming.
I do not agree with it, but if they have had any kind of contact
with the
company, made a purchase, filled out a form giving them their e-mail
address, ect, they can be legitimately placed on an e-mail list.
Note, too, that if they request such, the must be immediately
removed UNLESS
they have made a purchase from the source of the e-mail in which
case the
request can be legally ignored for a period of six months from the
date of
the purchase.
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From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com
[mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Adam Greene
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 15:45
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Clients want to send mass emails
Hey all,
Revisiting this topic ... one of our clients wants to be able to
send emails
out to people who have not explicitly opted in to receive their
mailings.
Most mass emailing companies I'm aware of require opt-in and in
particular
don't allow emails to be sent to a list of purchased email
addresses. I can
understand why -- who needs more spam? I guess my question is ...
how does a
company legitimately get their name and product out there without
turning
into a spammer? Is anyone aware of mass emailing companies or even a
direct
marketing company that uses legitimate means to do this, or what those
legitimate means are?
Maybe semi-OT for this list ...
Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Greene <mailto:maill...@webjogger.net>
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Clients want to send mass emails
Steve,
We've been steering customers toward Emma (www.myemma.com).
Customers still look to us for their IT consulting needs, and get
their
basic (and advanced IMAP & collaboration) email services from us. We
have
not found that steering customers in this direction weakens our
relationship
with the customer, but rather strengthens it as they get a good mass
email
solution and don't have the constant headache / stress of our not
being able
to service their mass email needs smoothly. In many cases, we also
manage
their mass mailings for them, for a fee (another source of income).
Thanks,
Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Guluk <mailto:st...@sgdesign.net>
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:45 AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Clients want to send mass emails
Hello,
As the economy prompts companies to do all they can to
market their products, email blasts are an attractive inexpensive
means to
get marketing in front of many people.
Problem is, Blacklists from users that fail to subscribe to
whatever necessary standards are deemed essential to be a legitimate
email.
And that one client can hurt the other clients on the mail server
that have
nothing to do with the offending clients mass mailing.
What do other server owners do? Tell the client no-way and
risk having them go elsewhere? I usually try to get them to go to
Constant
Contact but some still push hard to use the email account they have
with me.
I have a limitation of 50 recipients per email but what other
resources are
available to us to help handle this condition in the best manner?
What standards and policies do you do at your business?
Regards,
Steve Guluk
SGDesign
(949) 661-9333
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Steve Guluk
SGDesign
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