That explains it a bit more Dusty.  I can see that it is gonna be a pain
since it seems as if I will have to do the relay by address option unless
this ORBS admin can explain a few things with an email I sent out last
night.  I don't run totally wide open but I do use the relay local hosts.
If ORBS cannot give me a better explanation then I guess I'll have to go by
Relay for Addresses but I can sympathize with anyone who has said it is a
pain.

I appreciate the info Dusty and I'll keep you updated on what develops.

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "## Dusty Carden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Check your logs and you will see what kind of tests
> they are running.  They will include test like:
>
> user@[000.000.000.000]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Pretty much if you are relaying for local hosts then
> the '[EMAIL PROTECTED] will get you busted with ORBS.
> True there are not as many people using ORBS as
> there used to be but when your server is listed in there
> it can ouch a little.
>
> If you are running a wide open relay like some Imail
> Admins I know are, then you might also find yourself in
> the RBL.  That is a big ouch.
>
> The only security option I have seen that really passes is
> Relay for Addresses.  I know a lot of of folks don't like
> because they have to educate lusers on the reality of
> SMTP authentication.
>
> If I recall the message does have to make a round trip
> through the relay tester.  Even the guy that runs the
> DUL uses IMS for a MTA.  IMS coupled with Paul
> Sica's filters will accept the messages but will not
> send them back out.  I know it works because I kept
> my IMS server out of ORBS for a couple of years. :)
>
> Dusty
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The Innkeeper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 11:13 PM
> Subject: [IMail Forum] ORBS
>
>
> > I am trying to determine what this ORBS thing is.  I have closed off any
> > type of relay in my IMail server except for local hosts and I do not
> > understand what other type of test they are running which is finding an
> open
> > mail relay.  This is a wee bit frustrating and I would appreciate any
help
> > which the list could offer.
> >
> > Steve
>


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