Wait, I didn't type that reply.

I am not upset about anything and appreciate everyone's help so far.

Tim Durkin
P.O. Box 131
Little Elm, TX, 75068

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Donnelly
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 2:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Unknown User (Was Bcc:)

Tim,

Sorry, I did not mean to upset you! (maybe I mis-read the tone of your
reply?) I was just trying to help you understand the IMail processes. Once
we eliminate these possibilities (we both are sure of the configuration)
then we can look at other possible causes.

HOSTS file is \winnt\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (no extension). Inclusion
there could make IMail think it is 'local'.

Check of DNS for that domain reveals:
gmcofa.com.
    nameserver = N2.gmcofa.com.
    nameserver = NS.gmcofa.com.
    192.168.0.4
    192.168.0.2
    63.144.218.218
    63.144.218.220
    10, 63.144.218.219.

I'm afraid that MX record is not good (although you say it is correct, I do
have to differ on that). An IP in an MX record is not valid according to RFC
and IMail cannot deliver to a domain with an IP in the MX.

You could 'get around' that by putting the correct entry in the HOSTS file,
then IMail (and NT!) won't have to look in DNS. Of course, the real solution
is to let the domain owner know of his 'mistake' and have him correct it.

See, once one has enough info, solutions are not far away! Of course,
getting the needed info is always the time consuming part. Although this one
only took 2 replies. Not bad, really.

Daniel Donnelly
________________________________________________________


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]Unknown User (Was Bcc:)


> Well I don't know why it would think it is local because it is not a
domain
> that it has ever had or used.
>
> I am not sure where the hosts file is supposed to be but I assure you that
> domain is not listed ANYWHERE for any reason on this IMAIL system or
server
> and it never has been.
>
> The DNS lookup on that domain "gmcofa.com" shows to be correct and I can
> email it from any other source but no part of my imail server will talk to
> that mail server for some very strange reason.
>
> Tim Durkin
> P.O. Box 131
> Little Elm, TX, 75068
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Donnelly
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum]Unknown User (Was Bcc:)
>
> Tim,
>
> If IMail thinks the domain is local (one of the defined domains or
aliases),
> then it won't try outside. So that means that the problem domain is
> somewhere in the configuration of your system. Note that this could
include
> the HOSTS file!
>
> The Relay settings determine what domains IMail will accept email for,
too.
> With Anyone, IMail will accept _all_ email and try to deliver it, even
> though it may not be able to (for any number of reasons, DNS most likely,
> see below for my guess!). The other settings will cause IMail to
> 'authenticate' a user, before accepting his email. Anything other setting
> than Anyone, will cause IMail to only acccept email for local
domains/users.
>
> Some domains won't 'accept' your email, especially if you are an 'Open
> Relay' (which you are with the Anyone setting). So, maybe the problem is
not
> IMail, but your being in a list of 'spammers' and the receiving server
using
> that list as those from which it won't accept email. They could go as far
as
> to refuse the connection from your server.
>
> Another possibility for mail not being accepted by the remote, is that you
> do not have a PTR record for your mail server. That would give an error
> message in the log with something like 'Domain must resolve' in it.
>
> Daniel Donnelly
> ________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:38 PM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Bcc:
>
>
> > Has anyone had an issue where IMAIL won't send mail to a particular
domain
> > no matter what the settings are?  My server says "unknown user" but it
> never
> > attempts to contact the remote mail server and for some reason only
checks
> > locally.  I have had this issue in the past on different occasions.
> >
> > Keep in mind this has nothing to do with relay settings as it is set to
> > "relay for anyone" and still does this!
> >
> >
> >
> > Tim Durkin
> > P.O. Box 131
> > Little Elm, TX, 75068
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert J. Fehn
> Sr.
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:04 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Bcc:
> >
> > Thanks, I figured as much but, you never know....
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Bcc:
> >
> >
> > > > Does anyone know of a way to block the usage of the Blind Carbon
> > > > Copy in Imail?
> > >
> > > IMail doesn't have a way to do that.
> > >
> > > What you are looking to do would be quite difficult.  It is impossible
> for
> > > the mail server to know that the BCC exists until after the whole
E-mail
> > is
> > > sent.  Although it receives the Bcc address during the SMTP
transaction,
> > it
> > > doesn't know (or care) if the address it is sent is a To:, Cc:, or
Bcc:
> > (the
> > > SMTP protocol doesn't have a way of specifying it).  You would also
have
> > to
> > > check to see if the recipient was local vs. remote, as I'm guessing
> you're
> > > only looking to disable Bcc:'s either for incoming mail only or
outgoing
> > > mail only.
> > >                      -Scott
> > >
> > > Declude: Anti-spam and Anti-virus solutions for IMail.
> > > http://www.declude.com
> > >
> > >
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