Ok, guess we can let this one die!!
Daniel Donnelly
________________________________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Unknown User (Was Bcc:)
> I think you were replying to someone else and thought it was me!
>
> Tim Durkin
> P.O. Box 131
> Little Elm, TX, 75068
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Donnelly
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 8:40 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Unknown User (Was Bcc:)
>
> Tim,
>
> So it was just a figment of my imagination! Better that than you being
> upset.
>
> Take care,
> Daniel Donnelly
> ________________________________________________________
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 4:18 PM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Unknown User (Was Bcc:)
>
>
> > Wait, I didn't type that reply.
> >
> > I am not upset about anything and appreciate everyone's help so far.
> >
> > Tim Durkin
> > P.O. Box 131
> > Little Elm, TX, 75068
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Donnelly
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 2:40 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Unknown User (Was Bcc:)
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > Sorry, I did not mean to upset you! (maybe I mis-read the tone of your
> > reply?) I was just trying to help you understand the IMail processes.
Once
> > we eliminate these possibilities (we both are sure of the configuration)
> > then we can look at other possible causes.
> >
> > HOSTS file is \winnt\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (no extension).
Inclusion
> > there could make IMail think it is 'local'.
> >
> > Check of DNS for that domain reveals:
> > gmcofa.com.
> > nameserver = N2.gmcofa.com.
> > nameserver = NS.gmcofa.com.
> > 192.168.0.4
> > 192.168.0.2
> > 63.144.218.218
> > 63.144.218.220
> > 10, 63.144.218.219.
> >
> > I'm afraid that MX record is not good (although you say it is correct, I
> do
> > have to differ on that). An IP in an MX record is not valid according to
> RFC
> > and IMail cannot deliver to a domain with an IP in the MX.
> >
> > You could 'get around' that by putting the correct entry in the HOSTS
> file,
> > then IMail (and NT!) won't have to look in DNS. Of course, the real
> solution
> > is to let the domain owner know of his 'mistake' and have him correct
it.
> >
> > See, once one has enough info, solutions are not far away! Of course,
> > getting the needed info is always the time consuming part. Although this
> one
> > only took 2 replies. Not bad, really.
> >
> > Daniel Donnelly
> > ________________________________________________________
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 3:07 PM
> > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]Unknown User (Was Bcc:)
> >
> >
> > > Well I don't know why it would think it is local because it is not a
> > domain
> > > that it has ever had or used.
> > >
> > > I am not sure where the hosts file is supposed to be but I assure you
> that
> > > domain is not listed ANYWHERE for any reason on this IMAIL system or
> > server
> > > and it never has been.
> > >
> > > The DNS lookup on that domain "gmcofa.com" shows to be correct and I
can
> > > email it from any other source but no part of my imail server will
talk
> to
> > > that mail server for some very strange reason.
> > >
> > > Tim Durkin
> > > P.O. Box 131
> > > Little Elm, TX, 75068
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel
Donnelly
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:26 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum]Unknown User (Was Bcc:)
> > >
> > > Tim,
> > >
> > > If IMail thinks the domain is local (one of the defined domains or
> > aliases),
> > > then it won't try outside. So that means that the problem domain is
> > > somewhere in the configuration of your system. Note that this could
> > include
> > > the HOSTS file!
> > >
> > > The Relay settings determine what domains IMail will accept email for,
> > too.
> > > With Anyone, IMail will accept _all_ email and try to deliver it, even
> > > though it may not be able to (for any number of reasons, DNS most
> likely,
> > > see below for my guess!). The other settings will cause IMail to
> > > 'authenticate' a user, before accepting his email. Anything other
> setting
> > > than Anyone, will cause IMail to only acccept email for local
> > domains/users.
> > >
> > > Some domains won't 'accept' your email, especially if you are an 'Open
> > > Relay' (which you are with the Anyone setting). So, maybe the problem
is
> > not
> > > IMail, but your being in a list of 'spammers' and the receiving server
> > using
> > > that list as those from which it won't accept email. They could go as
> far
> > as
> > > to refuse the connection from your server.
> > >
> > > Another possibility for mail not being accepted by the remote, is that
> you
> > > do not have a PTR record for your mail server. That would give an
error
> > > message in the log with something like 'Domain must resolve' in it.
> > >
> > > Daniel Donnelly
> > > ________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tim D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:38 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Bcc:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Has anyone had an issue where IMAIL won't send mail to a particular
> > domain
> > > > no matter what the settings are? My server says "unknown user" but
it
> > > never
> > > > attempts to contact the remote mail server and for some reason only
> > checks
> > > > locally. I have had this issue in the past on different occasions.
> > > >
> > > > Keep in mind this has nothing to do with relay settings as it is set
> to
> > > > "relay for anyone" and still does this!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tim Durkin
> > > > P.O. Box 131
> > > > Little Elm, TX, 75068
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert J.
> Fehn
> > > Sr.
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:04 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Bcc:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, I figured as much but, you never know....
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:02 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Bcc:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know of a way to block the usage of the Blind Carbon
> > > > > > Copy in Imail?
> > > > >
> > > > > IMail doesn't have a way to do that.
> > > > >
> > > > > What you are looking to do would be quite difficult. It is
> impossible
> > > for
> > > > > the mail server to know that the BCC exists until after the whole
> > E-mail
> > > > is
> > > > > sent. Although it receives the Bcc address during the SMTP
> > transaction,
> > > > it
> > > > > doesn't know (or care) if the address it is sent is a To:, Cc:, or
> > Bcc:
> > > > (the
> > > > > SMTP protocol doesn't have a way of specifying it). You would
also
> > have
> > > > to
> > > > > check to see if the recipient was local vs. remote, as I'm
guessing
> > > you're
> > > > > only looking to disable Bcc:'s either for incoming mail only or
> > outgoing
> > > > > mail only.
> > > > > -Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > Declude: Anti-spam and Anti-virus solutions for IMail.
> > > > > http://www.declude.com
> > > > >
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