Dan,

I appreciate you responding but have a few points to make...

1) If I want to allow somebody to use my smtp-authenticated services and
have taken the precautions against being an open relay, who cares what the
ISP wants?  We are here to provide a service to our clients and quite
honestly, many ISPs are quite satisifed with the lousy service they provide
their customers.  Again, if I choose to allow authenticated mail relay, that
should be up to me.  If however I have an OPEN relay, then yes, the ISP has
the right (and should) blackhole my server .  oh yea, add MAPS support to
the wishlist too :)

2) The major SMTP clients can be configured to use nonstandard ports for
outgoing (smtp) mail.   So this is not an issue.

3)  "...for a product that follows RFC's..."?  Come on! Where in the RFC's
does it say one should limit the number of recips to a single domain to 5,
disconnect,reconnect,send 5 more, and start the cycle over?  You guys did
this (we can't turn it on or off) because of the policies at AOL.

4) Web messaging is not a viable solution to the problems ISPs are causing
by blocking port 25 traffic.  People don't like changes and/or workarounds
that interferes with their ability to do their job. If a guys notebook is
configured to use imap, then it should work all the time.  Lots of folks use
the same notebook in the office and out.  Switching between a 'real' mail
client and web messaging is a burdon that most folks don't want to worry
about.

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Donnelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, February 23, 2001 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] One for the 'wish list' - SMTP listen port


>Hmmm..... Bet the ISPs out there (GTE, Mindspring, Earthlink, etc...) would
>really love Ipswitch for that one! They take control (spam reasons
typically
>given) and Ipswitch gives it back??
>
>I suppose since one could use any unused port, it would make it less likely
>that a spammer would find the one you are using  for SMTP and your clients
>would have to know (you tell them, ) and set their software to use it
>(assuming that can be done, Len, I've not seen any settings in the clients
>I've used), would sort of reduce the risks, but still use of the ISPs
>bandwidth now on a nonstandard port...... Probably not a good idea for a
>product that follows RFCs. Now, I'm not stating any company policies, only
>expressing my personal point of view and maybe a reason for not doing this.
>
>True, it would be cool if one could! Now your IMail users could access from
>anywhere and send using your domain names. But they can pretty much do that
>using Web MSG, too (whoops, did I find another reason not to make the
>change?).
>
>Interesting idea....keep talking.
>
>Daniel Donnelly
>________________________________________________________
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Gregg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "IMail Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 12:20 PM
>Subject: [IMail Forum] One for the 'wish list'
>
>
>> It would sure be nice if one could configure IMail to 'listen' on
multiple
>> ports and 'send' on only one port.
>>
>> Obviously, we would want the normal listen/send on port 25 but since many
>> dialup providers are blocking port 25 traffic, preventing folks from
>sending
>> through our servers, I think it would be great to also listen on another
>> port (26, 1025, etc...)
>>
>>
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