I got hit with the e-mail too this morning from IPSwitch. It made you feel kinda weird reading it if you are a long term IMail licensor (we have been since v4.0) and subscribe and monitor this list serv. I don't post here much but am deeply grateful of this list, Len, Scott, et al. I know where you are coming from and agree with what you are saying and would have certainly hooked up with Len and Scott and others if I were the one steering the ship at IPSwitch. It doesn't seem to make good sense this approach, but I try and understand their decision making below.
I could be totally off base here, however there is this huge market out there for these e-mail system products with Sub-sections (or purchaser profiles if you will). There are those who like to throw big dollars and big names at solutions and those who are very cost conscious. There are those that are educated and those who are not so educated for whatever reasons. There are crossovers between the subsections of the marketplace. IPSwitch will most likely enjoy success making the big dollar sales with the big dollar and big name oriented consumers or those who don't take the time and get educated. Plus they are putting their name and long standing company reputation and resources behind it to justify. (I am with you and don't necessarily agree with IPSwitch's approach, and would have worked with Declude myself. What a great slam dunk and fairly priced solution for us the consumer.) Declude and IMGate I believe will continue on successfully too and most likely with the other profiled sub-sections of the marketplace who are more educated and cost-conscious. The timing for me is almost uncanny because we just made a decision to go with Len and Scotts products as soon as we are able to get it scheduled and arranged. A good thing by IPSwitch is that they provides links to this list serv, to Declude and IMGate via their Third Party Add-on information Web page. I would have never found them otherwise I think. I also would have certainly moved to other E-Mail service products without them too. These guys like Declude, IMGate, HumanKind, all together make up for the shortcomings of IMail that we require and most importantly these days at prices our company considers fair. Respectfully, Don Schreiner www.compbiz.net -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IMail Forum] New IMail Anti-Virus ad Declude As someone who has used Imail for many years and begged to have an integrated antivirus solution for several years in the Imail forum, we have been very grateful to Scott and Declude for such wonderful add-on products that have achieved this for us. Len too came up with a popular method is due credit much as well. I wish to personally thank both for their substantial help over the years here with Imail. Now after I begged for this solution for years, and Imail just sits there on their hands, they now introduce a new intergrated solution today charging thousands just like the big antivirus companies, instead of partnering with Declude for more rational ethical solutions, with more features, at the fraction of the costs. http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/antivirus.html I don't know who John Korsak, Product Marketing Manager for IMail Server is, but his announcement this morning of this limited featured product for substantially greater cost is rediculous. I don't know about the rest of the long time Imail users, like me, feel, but this is about as offensive as it gets. As far as I am concerned we were going to dump Imail until Scott made Declude. I am sure I am not alone in this consideration. I've been in professional marketing for some 25 years and I've never witnessed anything quite like this. Seeing the absurdity of this, I would not blame Scott or Len for stopping any and all Imail add-on development. We were going to upgrade to Imail 7.x but have now decided not to do this. We may well begin searching for a solution where we can deal with people who don't pull these rediculous marketing ploys and stave off valuable add-on development. Does any one here really want to spend $7,850 for a product that has half the features of Declude at $795? Who's kidding who? It seems very obvious Ipswitch wants to get some 'big hits' on naive buyers rather than simply work with great add-on people like Scott and Len who have been of invaluable help to Ipswitch, the users of Imail, and its community while Ipswitch simply sat silently on their laurals for years putting out features that had no comparison what-so-ever to the importance of anti-virus in email. I was just the personal guest of senior editors at Ziff Davis Media in NYC last week discussing the related subjects of desktop and email security. Perhaps I should recommend an article on the 'great anti-virus rip-off' where companies like Declude and Frisk should be given far more credit for their honest and rational solutions? -- Roger Heath advanced internet desktop: www.activatordesk.com antivirus antispam email : www.activatormail.com master internet index : www.infogrid.com Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. An Archive of this list is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. An Archive of this list is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/
