you musta missed the last 2 weeks of this list, this has been round and round a few 
times, and lots of users feel the
same as you. at this point as long as ipswitch doesn't make it impossible for declude 
to work with imail things should
be ok. If ipswitch suddenly does something that makes it harder or impossible for 
declude to work with them, then we'll
have problems, currently, I know Declude works and have a PO in my hand about to fax 
to Scott for the purchase of their
product. in the last month it has stopped all of the virus' including the recent 
badtrans, kindly notifying me of the
attempts. Thanks Scott and everyone at declude.

my $0.02
Don


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Heath
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:53 AM
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Subject: [IMail Forum] New IMail Anti-Virus ad Declude


As someone who has used Imail for many years and begged to
have an integrated antivirus solution for several years in
the Imail forum, we have been very grateful to Scott and
Declude for such wonderful add-on products that have achieved
this for us. Len too came up with a popular method is due credit
much as well. I wish to personally thank both for their
substantial help over the years here with Imail.

Now after I begged for this solution for years, and Imail
just sits there on their hands, they now introduce a new
intergrated solution today charging thousands just like the
big antivirus companies, instead of partnering with Declude
for more rational ethical solutions, with more features, at
the fraction of the costs.

http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/IMail_Server/antivirus.html

I don't know who John Korsak, Product Marketing Manager
for IMail Server is, but his announcement this morning of
this limited featured product for substantially greater
cost is rediculous. I don't know about the rest of the long
time Imail users, like me, feel, but this is about as
offensive as it gets. As far as I am concerned we were going
to dump Imail until Scott made Declude. I am sure I am not
alone in this consideration. I've been in professional
marketing for some 25 years and I've never witnessed anything
quite like this.

Seeing the absurdity of this, I would not blame Scott or Len
for stopping any and all Imail add-on development. We were
going to upgrade to Imail 7.x but have now decided not to do
this. We may well begin searching for a solution where we
can deal with people who don't pull these rediculous marketing
ploys and stave off valuable add-on development.

Does any one here really want to spend $7,850 for a product
that has half the features of Declude at $795? Who's kidding
who? It seems very obvious Ipswitch wants to get some 'big
hits' on naive buyers rather than simply work with great
add-on people like Scott and Len who have been of invaluable
help to Ipswitch, the users of Imail, and its community while
Ipswitch simply sat silently on their laurals for years
putting out features that had no comparison what-so-ever to
the importance of anti-virus in email.

I was just the personal guest of senior editors at Ziff Davis
Media in NYC last week discussing the related subjects of
desktop and email security. Perhaps I should recommend an
article on the 'great anti-virus rip-off' where companies
like Declude and Frisk should be given far more credit for
their honest and rational solutions?

--
Roger Heath

advanced internet desktop: www.activatordesk.com
antivirus antispam email : www.activatormail.com
master internet index    : www.infogrid.com


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