Hi Bob,

below you can find the original messages i sent to the list.

1. message composed with Outlook 2000:

>From <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed Dec 19 17:28:58 2001
Received: from heinip500 [194.123.79.88] by cadfem.de
  (SMTPD32-6.06) id A04A31DB00AA; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:28:58 +0100
From: "Heinrich Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [hr-test] This is just a test message
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:36:15 +0100
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Precedence: bulk
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-UIDL: 307396847
Status: R

TEST
TEST
TEST


2. message composed with IMAIL Webmessaging:

>From <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thu Dec 20 09:07:29 2001
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:07:29 +0100
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
From: "Heinrich  Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [hr-test] TEST
X-Mailer: <IMail v6.05>
Precedence: bulk
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-UIDL: 307396848
Status: U

TEST
TEST
TEST
TEST

This are the messages i received from my test list. I have checked the
settings in the registry for the list.

Only moderator can post is checked:          restricted=2 in registry
Reply to list is not checked:                replytolist=0


Both messages are returned by the postmaster of the recipient, but the
bounce message looks totally different like other bounce message i receive
usually. We only have problems with this recipient if we use our regular
mailing list, as far as i know. Other bounce messages (unknow user, mailbox
limit exceeded, ...) are delivered to the moderators mailbox.
The only way to catch the message is to delete the users.lst.
Below you can find the message that is sent back by the postmaster of this
particular domain.


Article rejected! There are no subscribers to the list. (Users.lst file yet
to be created.)
Received: from ee01.etschel-eicher.de [195.252.163.217] by cadfem.de with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-6.06) id AF0EA1F10102; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:19:26 +0100
Received: (from postbote@localhost)
        by ee01.etschel-eicher.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03141;
        Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:20:12 +0100
Received: from localhost (postmaster@localhost [127.0.0.1])
        by ee01.etschel-eicher.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03128
        for <postmaster@localhost>; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:20:10 +0100
Received: from pop.etschel-eichner.de
        by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.1.2)
        for postmaster@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:20:10 +0100
(MET)
Received: from cadfem.de (mail.cadfem.de [217.89.141.59])
        by mail.neptun11.de (8.9.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02131
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:15:37 +0100 (CET)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:07:29 +0100
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
From: "Heinrich  Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [hr-test] TEST
Precedence: bulk
X-UIDL: f[$e9H5M!!(==e9;iNd9

TEST
TEST
TEST
TEST


Heinrich



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Stull
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re[4]: [IMail Forum] Mail going to list Multiple times !


Sandy, Heinrich,

A couple of things. 1st: in 7.04 we fixed the SMTP deliver
process so that messages that have a NUL sender in the SMTP
conversation don't get forwarded to the list. The log
snippet that Heinrich sent shows that the bounce message is
coming in with a valid address, so SMTP is not going to
catch it. So, (2d) what Sandy is looking for at this point
is the actual message body and its headers (so am I
actually, want to see the same thing he wants to see).

Bob



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