>with debugging on (localhost/smtp/debug messages box checked)..this is
>still all I get unless I am supposed to look elsewhere for the log

stop/start smtp, the debug goes to the log file

>  when
>debugging is turned on:
>
>03:12 11:12 SMTPD(15220128) [192.168.100.31] EHLO sharyns
>
>03:12 11:12 SMTPD(15220128) [192.168.100.31] MAIL FROM:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>03:12 11:12 SMTPD(15220128) [192.168.100.31] RCPT TO:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>03:12 11:12 SMTPD(15220128) [192.168.100.31] D:\IMAIL\spool\D28e8128.SMD
>429
>
>03:12 11:12 SMTP-(000009D4) processing D:\IMAIL\spool\Q28e8128.SMD

no debugging there


>I was able to telnet to this same mail server, from my mail server, and
>when I manually did all the commands, it accepted my message (once I got
>the syntax correct after 50 tries)

ok, their server is there, you proved

>I even rerouted the IP address of their mail server so it bypasses the
>smtp proxy on my firewall

ah, turn that smtp proxy off. I'll bet that is the pb.  (haven't we been 
through this smpt proxy junk with you before? )

>and goes directly through the filter but that
>still doesn't seem to solve the problem.

try to succeed in activating smtp debugging.  :))  you'll know it when you 
see it

Len



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