>>
Users have signed to a very clear contract with TOS and AUP.  If they don't
like the policies, they don't enter into the contract.
>>

Does anyone have a "virus" contract they would share. I'm looking to offer
virus blocking to my businesss but want them to sign a contract first.

Andrew P. Kaplan
Network Administrator
CyberShore, Inc.
http://www.cshore.com


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Len Conrad
> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 6:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Legality of spam blocking and virus scanning
>
>
>
> >ISP's, and web hosters are all in essence, but not really common
> carriers
> >(in the US). We cannot be prosecuted for any bad stuff (like spam,
> >viruses, or bomb threats) that is passed through our networks. However
> >there is a lot of legal precedence in the US and abroad that if
> you taking
> >upon the role of editor, that you become responsible for the content.
>
> yes, letting kiddie porno ONTO your servers and networks can be
> prosecuted
> in many countries.  So you are FORCED to "edit" / monitor content to keep
> yourself legal.
>
> >So does scanning viruses and filtering spam for users, equal editorial
> >responsibility?
>
> Users have signed to a very clear contract with TOS and AUP.  If
> they don't
> like the policies, they don't enter into the contract.
>
> >I personally think so, but it hasn't been tested in court yet to my
> >knowledge. I see a scenario where a semi-legitimate spammer sues an ISP
> >for blocking his "marketing" that a user wanted,
>
> this has happened already.
>
> >because somehow he got on a filter list, or how about the business who
> >thought their ISP was filtering viruses and one gets through and
> wipes out
> >a million dollar database?
>
> IANAL, but since no guarantees are made to protect their database, and
> since a case could be made against any client who owned/operated
> a million
> dollar database BUT didn't have mutliple, off-site backups...
>
> >Just one of those things to keep in the back of your mind...
>
> When we reject a msg (ie, we refuse at the edge to accept it for
> delivery),
> the sending MTA has the responsibility to bounce the msg to the
> originator.
>
> AOL is widely known, even in this mailing list, to accept to
> accept mail at
> their MX machines and then silently delete if before delivering to the
> recipient mailbox.  I'm pretty sure AOL's lawyers have vetted this
> technical procedure. And where do AOL mailbox owners explicitly agree to
> this policy?
>
> btw, I happen to know a ex-AOL mail admin who was pursued in court for
> having system rules that deleted mail for policy reasons, and some sender
> attacked him and AOL for "destroying" an important msg.  I'm not familiar
> with the court case, but based on AOL's current "silent drop" policy, I
> think they must have won.
>
> So, I will not keep your concern in any part of my mind.  And this topic
> is/has been hashed over 100's of times in various mailing lists.
>
> Len
>
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