Without disclosing my profession you have brought out a huge issue many have
been looking for direction on.  You touched on some issues that peak my
interest.  To summarize my opinion:

#1    If you as an ISP present your product as being "virus scanned" or
something similar (I've seen some claim to be 100% virus free) then you have
issue a warranty to the customer.  We all know that the viruses are always
ahead of the virus scanners and sooner or later one will get through.  If
that virus causes damage in any way to any of your customers I would argue
that you are completely liable for all damages.  On the flip side, if you
didn't virus scan at all you present no warranty and would not be liable.

#2    If you as an ISP used software to "scan" or "validate" any messages I
send or receive I believe you are liable for any non-delivery of such
messages.  If I send a message to someone as your customer, and for any
reason you discard that message as SPAM or virus, you must be liable for any
damages you cause due to non-delivery.

Please don't argue TOS or AUP will protect you because it won't.  It won't
matter what you put in that agreement it will normally be set aside in the
event of your negligence.

The bottom line is that it is my opinion that when you decide to scan
messages or content for viruses, spam, or anything else you take full and
complete responsibility for the damages that may result.  False positives
happen all the time.  These are dangerous practices that I would never
advise anyone to engage in.

The courts will eventually work this out, but as an "informed" individual it
seems that the eventual conclusion is clear... you are liable.

Please don't accept the forgoing as legal advice.  Contact your attorney for
specific legal advice.

-Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 12:55 AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Legality of spam blocking and virus scanning


> Let me say that I am not trying to start a flame war or anything, and
> think that both spam filtering and virus scanning at the mail server are
> good things. However...
>
> ISP's, and web hosters are all in essence, but not really common
> carriers (in the US). We cannot be prosecuted for any bad stuff (like
> spam, viruses, or bomb threats) that is passed through our networks.
> However there is a lot of legal precedence in the US and abroad that if
> you taking upon the role of editor, that you become responsible for the
> content.
>
> So does scanning viruses and filtering spam for users, equal editorial
> responsibility? I personally think so, but it hasn't been tested in
> court yet to my knowledge. I see a scenario where a semi-legitimate
> spammer sues an ISP for blocking his "marketing" that a user wanted,
> because somehow he got on a filter list, or how about the business who
> thought their ISP was filtering viruses and one gets through and wipes
> out a million dollar database?
>
> Just one of those things to keep in the back of your mind...
>
> jon
>
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