Scott:

I respect Joe's right to a different opinion.

I have no respect for his inability to differentiate
between two very different issues, coupled with his
misrepresentation of the facts.

Further, he has never responded to a question which
was posted weeks ago asking him to explain the near
100% success record of MAPS in defending against the
many lawsuits filed against them. MAPS has *never*
lost a case where they could show direct origin of
the spam and have only settled a handful of cases
where the issue was the 'double-opt-in' requirement
for mailing list management.

If there is anything which shows the weakness of
Joe's arguments here, it is MAPS track record in the
courts. Similar examples can be shown regarding AOL
and other major providers.

I repeat: Joe is entitled to his opinion of this as
a free speech and censorship issue. However, as a
legal issue there is considerable case law which
show his arguments to be unfounded. No court has
*ever* ruled that any system must accept any and all
mail sent to it. No court has ever ruled in favor of
a plaintiff claiming loss of revenue due to a blocked
email. These aren't opinions, they are facts. I
welcome any evidence to the contrary.

   --- elp2

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no... people who resort to name calling because of differing opinions
are
maroons.....


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