I can tell that what you stripped was a really good flame and I
appreciate your effort. Sorry to spark that, but here's the counterpoint
to your argument: "no legitimate user really needs HTML email"...

We have many corporate users who now regularly rely on HTML formatted
reports, analysis, and presentations all delivered via HTML email. None
of them would ever consider using an email package that does not support
HTML mail because their internal business systems have become dependent
upon this capability.

Were this only internal, we might make an argument to protect acainst
virii and soforth by using web server resources to publish this content,
however it has become very interactive, and also spans multiple
organizations that interoperate - so it's a very hard sell... And the
next piece of it is not possible to dispute: The majority of the
personnel in these organizations and the executives either do not
understand, will not be trained, and do/or not wish to take any extra
measures whatsoever to "open" or otherwise "retreive" rich content from
any source when they can simply receive it in their email like every
other piece of electronic correspondence they have. To protest this in
any serious way is a good way to loose their confidence if you are a
consultant, and your job if you are an employee... Such a contention is
seen as foolhardy and myopic - indicating that the person making this
argument is incompetent or at least not paying attention to the real
needs of the organization... I've seen people get into serious trouble
over things like this and some of them have been the subject of, in the
words of John Cleese, "A Strategic Personnell Redeployment".

I wear many hats... Including CEO, CTO, CIO, COO and President in a
number of organizations... I can tell you that from an informed
perspective, Email with rich content is a strong solution to some real
world problems... And as such, it is simply not going to go away... Any
business organization that is not using this capability is at a distinct
disadvantage. (read: going out of business strategy)

That said, the current implementation of this capabililty is AWFUL for
all the reasons we all talk about here... As engineers and technicians,
it is our job to refine the solution so that the capability can be
delivered without the risks... That's a tough challenge, but it is here
to stay.

_M

PS: In corporate environments it is often possible to place a proxy
server in the network path and program that server to refuse requests to
unknown web servers - thereby reducing the risks where rich content is
concerned while still allowing rich content to be safely delivered and
easily published. However this is draconian and frequently a short-lived
"experiment" because external content from legitimate sources quickly
becomes an issue, and typically some executive will become frustrated
enough to demand the removal of the restriction... Silly, but true.

| -----Original Message-----
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
| Dave Salovesh
| Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 2:51 PM
| To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
| Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Is your e-mail watching you? 
| 
| 
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: Madscientist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| 
| > Unfortunately, the need for rich content is here to stay so 
| HTML email 
| > will prevail... And likely to become greater with time...
| 
| I had a loooong reply (rant) to this drafted, but I 
| reconsidered.  Thank me later - this is the short version:
| 


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