Lee

Monday, July 29, 2002 you wrote:
V> 1) What has your ACTUAL experience been installing it. I'm always
V> suspicious of companies that say their product takes "15 minutes or
V> so" to install.

   There's an EXE file and 2 configuration files. You have to edit the
   config file for your ID. You just copy the exe file to the imail
   directory and execute it. There are optional email template files
   for certain things. But even so 15 minutes is more than sufficient.

V> How long did it take you to configure it, how good was the
V> documentation, what did it take to subscribe to RBL/MAPS etc.?

   You can have it working with a default config file.  When you first
   start trapping spam you will be very happy and surprised at how
   easy it was.  The documentation is sufficient but somewhat terse.
   This is offset 1000 times by Scott's quick responses by e-mail and
   the helpful members of the list.  The RBL/MAPS tests are well
   documented and consist of one line in the config file and one
   action in the junkmail file - very simple.

V>  What is the interface for the configuration? Text files? web
V> pages? executable?

   Simple text files with a text editor.

V> 2) It says it "allows you to manage spam control on a user by user basis".
V> My question is - how?

   You set up a text file for each domain and each user you want to
   have different settings.

V> Must I use the on-host management agent that comes with Imail? Or
V> is there an executable that must be run on the server for Declude?
V> Or can I manage it through the web interface, the same as most
V> other server parameters?

   No - you don't do anything with IMAIL.  Declude has its own exe
   file.  There is no interface at all except for a text editor.  And
   imho there is little need for one.  Even if you have on you'd spend
   more time trying to explain to someone what the different things
   meant than anything else.

V> I don't want to roll this out and then have to run around
V> configuring hundreds of users individually - I want to either give
V> them the ability to turn it on or off themselves or delegate the
V> task to the individual email admin.

   Each user and each domain has to have a separate file. And to
   manage those files you'd have to teach every user and domain admin
   how to do it. I have pretty sophisticated users on my system and I
   don't think more than 2 or 3 could come anywhere close to even
   understanding the system much less managing it. I wouldn't do it if
   I were you.

   You can either answer questions about declude and spam or answer
   questions about spam. My belief is that the latter is easier,
   especially when declude causes there to be less of it, and takes
   less time than the former.

V> 3) It says it doesn't really affect performance, and I believe
V> that, but do the extra checks it does signficantly affect
V> bandwidth, or message delivery or receipt times?

   It has improved performance on our system because of the dequeue
   feature. It is barely noticeable in delivery time differences. I
   haven't tested bandwidth but I don't think it is significant at
   all.

V> 4) Can you see the declude service in the services list in imail,
V> or is there some other way to monitor whether it has crashed/is
V> still up?

   It isn't a service.  Easiest way to test if you are uncertain is to
   send a message and then check the headers to see if you see your
   message there.  It very rarely has a problem anyway and usually
   only when you upgrade or patch imail.

V> 5) Any questions I'm not asking that I should?

   Lots, but none that impact whether you should buy it and use it.

   For instance you will need a 3rd party tool so you can monitor held
   messages and release them.  And likely you'll want a log analysis
   program.  There is a section on the web site that describes various
   offerings.
   
   In addition to that you will have to learn how to use the product.
   Most of use believe the weighting system is the most effective
   feature but how you set your weighting system will largely be
   determined by your users.
   
   However, you will get almost immediate results at any level of
   expertise. If you choose never to tweak it you will still view it
   as a good investment.

It is one of the best investments you can make in my opinion.


Terry Fritts


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