which reminds me, i've noticed there have been reports of new scans on port
25, 80, 8080, 8383 lately as well, i can provide more info on that if
someone would like it.

Don


> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Weber
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:36 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]
> >
> >
> >Scott, i recall the original bugtraq post, and my understanding
> >was that it
> >was a full disclosure type of statement, as i understood it, he was
> >explaining the problem, and sent source code to reproduce the
> >problem, yes
> >he sent a patch, but i didnt really feel that he was trying to get ppl to
> >run that, i think he was being quite outright in giving the
> >source code he
> >used to create the patch, so that anyone could see that by viewing the
> >source and compiling from the source, they get the same program,
> >in which i
> >have yet to see any evidence of that source or program
> >containing a trojan,
> >mayb i just read it differently, but the last i seen on bugtraq
> >was IPswitch
> >saying basically that there is no problem. this is what got my attention.
> >personally i am about in the middle of full disclosure practices, I agree
> >that informing the company to an extent is and should be
> >attempted, but for
> >some reason i think this guy was just looked over, i mean you can see, he
> >reported a problem, and was told he was a hacker trying to get
> >ppl to run a
> >trojan, do you think it might be possible that he may have informed
> >ipswitch, say, 2 weeks ago, and already got a response from them saying
> >there was no problem, and therefore he posted to bugtraq, from what i see
> >first hand in this matter is that, he reported an exploit and was told by
> >the company that there is no problem. which leads me to blv that he would
> >have got the same response had he followed standard procedure. look at
> >bugtraq yourself, this is exactly what happened.
> >
> >Don
> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R.
> >Scott Perry
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:13 AM
> >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >Subject: Re: [IMail Forum]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>i hope someone it ipswitch is paying attention to bugtraq, that
> >> >guys seems
> >> >>pretty convinced at least that there IS an exploitable hole.
> >> >
> >> >They definitely are paying attention, and have tried to
> >> >reproduce the problem.
> >> >
> >> >I, however, can give very little credibility to a hacker that sends a
> >> >program to thousands of people, trying to get them to run it,
> >> >claiming that
> >> >it is a patch.  The standard procedure when finding a security
> >> >hole is to
> >> >inform the company that makes the product, give them time to
> >fix it, and
> >> >then post information about the hole.  Bypassing the step of
> >> >informing the
> >> >company is very unprofessional, and sending a patch that is almost
> >> >certainly a trojan horse -- well I'll let everyone come to their own
> >> >conclusion about that one.
> >> >
> >> >FWIW, Ipswitch has a very good track record in dealing with
> >*legitimate*
> >> >security holes.
> >> >
> >> >                                                    -Scott
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