Jason,

I appreciate your point but let's face it, budgets are tight.  I wish I
could purchase new machines every year.  While a new box could be had for
around $2K in today's market that doesn't include the cost of the MS tax for
servers OS, the time to bring it online, etc.

The fact is that I have plenty of bandwidth to deliver and send our mail and
service our VPN (3Mb down 1/5Mb Up).  We average at PEAK 1000 messages a day
delivered and sent in total between all domains.  I monitor our CPU and
memory usage on this box religiously and I spike at 100% about three times
an hour for about 500ms at each spike with the average load at about 85% in
the morning when everyone checks their mail and 5% when idling.  My memory
has about 256MB of overhead available (I average 260MB of 560MB in use) and
I have almost never seen disk paging on this box.  I haven't experienced any
major memory leaks either.  I usually reset this box every month just to be
on the safe side.

So while my Dell box isn't the latest Ferrari, is a tried and true ole'
pickup truck that has been performing like a champ for 3 years, and with no
major changes in user additions, mail traffic or new software on this
server, I don't see why it is unreasonable to ask Ipswitch to diagnose a
problem that I have confirm is being experienced by others.

If my frustrations came out in my reaction to Ipswitch's response to my call
for support, I apologize.  We decided to pay our extortion fee for upgrades
I only hope that this will help resolve the problem, albeit without
diagnosing what was causing the problem in the first place.

Scott R. Morgan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SUPERIOR RESTAURANT MANAGEMENT SERVICES
(512) 443-3979
(512) 416-9621 (Fax)

USPA A-29450
Only a skydiver knows why the birds sing....
They don't have to repack a parachute every time they land!!!



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Newland
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] RE:Attachment Problem

Lets get real here.  He is running his "critical" e-mail server on a
machine that 95% of people haven't used on the desktop in years (Let
alone for a server).  While I agree that there may be a problem with
attachments in webmail, this attitude doesn't solve anything.  

People have to give him options to identify the problem, and 1 option
that was given was that his hardware is seriously out of date for a
production I-mail server.  Plus, regardless of how few users he has
claimed to have, that doesn't mean squat if they are all receiving 1,000
messages per day.


Jason


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Rabe
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 12:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] RE:Attachment Problem


Hmm...if I have Dual 2.6GHz Pentium 4s...do I need to upgrade my servers
as well.  That's a bunch of sh*t.

If Ipswitch had mentioned I needed God to process e-mail, Moses and
Einstein to diagnose Imail software problems, and server pixie dust at
the ready in case my Nuclear Powered Processors went down, I probably
would have gone another route.



Come on IPSWITCH, get your act together.

Travis



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott R. 
> Morgan
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [IMail Forum] RE:Attachment Problem
>
>
> Well it looks like Ipswitch is going to force us to upgrade before 
> they spend any time trying to diagnose this.
>
> Since we are running such a slow server, I would like some feed back 
> on you users out there that upgraded from 7.x to 8.x as to the hit you
> took on CPU
> cycle and memory usage.  Like I have said before, we have a lightly
loaded
> server but it is going to be borderline for the new version.
>
> I just know that they are going to throw the speed of our server in 
> our face I we continue to have problems after the upgrade.  We do not 
> have a new server in the budget right now.
>
> I will be performing upgrades from 7.07 to 7.15 before I try the jump 
> to 8.x and I will report back on the results to the list.
>
> Scott R. Morgan
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> SUPERIOR RESTAURANT MANAGEMENT SERVICES
> (512) 443-3979
> (512) 416-9621 (Fax)
>
> USPA A-29450
> Only a skydiver knows why the birds sing....
> They don't have to repack a parachute every time they land!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------Original Message----------------------------------
> We have Licensed Imail Server with 250 Users.  We currently have 9 
> domains installed so with Ipswitch's new licensing scheme, we would 
> have to go with the Imail Server Professional.  The cost as quoted 
> from Ipswitch is $495 plus tax.
>
> The question is can you guarantee that the update to 8.01 will resolve

> the problem.  I have received reports from other users on the 
> discussion list that they are also experiencing the same problem and 
> they are running Windows 2k Server, and all Imail updates installed on

> 8.01.
>
> I am also concerned that ver. 8.01 would require more horsepower than 
> our current PII300MHz box can provide.
>
> Please address the reason as to what is occurring to cause the 
> problem.
>
> PS I will be forwarding all correspondence regarding this issue to the

> mailing list since I am not the only one suffering from this problem.
>
> Scott R. Morgan
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> SUPERIOR RESTAURANT MANAGEMENT SERVICES
> (512) 443-3979
> (512) 416-9621 (Fax)
>
> USPA A-29450
> Only a skydiver knows why the birds sing....
> They don't have to repack a parachute every time they land!!!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Server 7.07] Scott Morgan - IL-500050 
> [T200308060249]
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I have now read that thread on the forum.
>
> The Service Agreement for the Small Business version lists for 
> $249.00. This will update you to 8.01 and bring you all updates and 
> phone support for a year.
>
> Dave
>
>
> >In reply to 06 Aug message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
> >Sender          : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Tracking Number : T200308060249Z2332403
> >Pool            : IMail Support
> >Sent to         : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Date            : 8/6/03 1:16 PM
> >---
>
> >Name:  Scott Morgan
> >Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Product: IMail Server 7.07
> >OS: Windows NT
> >Serial Number for Registered User: IL-500050
> >Problem:
>
> >I am running Imail server 7.07HF3 on Windows NT4.0SP6 with all MS 
> >security and hotfixes installed.  My end users are having a problem 
> >in Webmail were attachments will not download in IE6sp1. This has 
> >been confirmed on clients with varying hotfixes and service packs 
> >installed.
>
> >The attachments will download with Mozilla or with a POP or IMAP 
> >client. We use Webmail exclusively for our mail client in our 
> >corporate network and this is causing no end of problems.  I 
> >participate on the Imail Server discussion list and we have a thread 
> >of over 50 messages regarding this problem.  I have had several other

> >users confirm this as a problem but it seems to be with both 7.07 and

> >8.1.
>
> >I am desperate for a fix with this.  We are no longer under a service

> >agreement so upgrading will cost us money.  I do not want to spend 
> >the money unless I can confirm that an upgrade will fix the problem.
>
> >Scott R. Morgan
>
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