thanks len
always a great help

----- Original Message -----
From: "Len Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] PTR record for a virtual IP


>
> >Let me rephrase my question
> >when a user on a virtual domain domain2.com send an email via the server
> >host domain1.com, will  smtp identify itself as Domain1.com or
Domain2.com?
>
> I looked up this "Imail helo's as" in the u/g and kb, and couldn't find
for
> sure (esp since it's an important point), but I think I remember an answer
> in this list from Ipswitch person that Imail helo's with the
> default/canonical hostname for a given IP.
>
> >does the answer depends on whether the user authenticated or not ?
>
> I would say no. there's no correspondance.   Imail SMTPD
> greets+authenticates, but it's IMail SMTP that sends.  Imail doesn't
change
> it's HELO hostame to match every outbound @sender.domain it sends.  eg,
> what about users who send through IMail using a domain that is not even an
> Imail domain, real or virtual?
>
> >If the answer is Domain1.com, then the "from" [EMAIL PROTECTED], will be
> >different from the ehlo/smtp/PTR
> >Is that tested by some servers ?
>
> Sure.
>
> eg, to prevent common forgeries of the helo hostname using the domains of
> BigISP (yahoo, hotmail, etc),  IMGate can do this logic:
>
> if helo is /BigISP/, then PTR must be /BigISP/.
>
> if sender.domain is /big ISP/, then PTR must be /BigISP/
>
> if PTR is /BigISP/, then sender.domain must be /BigISP/
>
> etc, etc.
>
> >can it be a problem ?
>
> not in general.
>
> As I said, the ptr/helo/smtp-greet hostname is identified with the
physical
> machine and its IP address, independent of the (virtual) envelope
> sender/recipient domains the machine emits/receives.
>
> There is no required correspondence between a domain's MX hostname and PTR
> of IP it resolves to.
>
> somedomain.com  MX 10 mx.whatever.com.
>
> but somedomain.com is not involved in matchup of:
>
> mx.whatever.com.       A  A.B.C.D
>
> D.C.B.A.in-addr.arpa PTR  mx.whatever.com.
>
> And then the MTA at IP A.B.C.D :
>
> SMTP-greets as mx.whatever.com
>
> HELOs as mx.whatever.com
>
>
> Len
>
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