Just an fyi - We use the 'send all mail to relay' feature and our relays
show that the server always connects from the primary imail IP and the
HELO/EHLO is the OHN configured in IMail.

In order to satisfy your client and get the mail delivered, consider
building a cheap (i.e. free) relay using a spare machine.  Nothing
spectacular is needed.

Len has put together some excellent info regarding this.  I think the site
is imgate.meiway.com.  If not, search the archives for 'imgate'

Regards,

David Gregg
dgSoft Internet Services
Web hosting, Email outsourcing, Dedicated and shared infrastructure
solutions.
(949) 584-1514

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] PTR record for a virtual IP


>
> ><That's not a problem.  No decent mailserver or anti-spam program will
> >complain if the EHLO/HELO does not match the PTR.>
> >
> >But some are starting to do just that (supanet.com).
> >what if this practice become more widely used ?
>
> Then don't send mail to them.  The RFCs say they can't block your mail
even
> if your EHLO/HELO is invalid.  But yours is 100% valid!
>
> The problem is on their end.  If supanet.com is doing this, it is their
> problem.
>
> >Shouldn't IPSWITCH add an option to let us define what ehlo should be
used
> >with VD?
>
> It would be nice if they did.  But it won't solve the problem -- tomorrow,
> it will be something else.  Supanet's competitor will say "Reverse DNS
> entries must have the word MAIL in them".  Then Supanet will say "Too much
> spam is coming from EHLO/HELO's that have 'mail' in them -- we're going to
> reject such mail."  Now you can't send E-mail to both Supanet and their
> competitor.
>
> When someone chooses to require something silly in order to send them
> E-mail, you have to make a judgement call.  Are you willing to switch
> mailservers because of some bozo that doesn't understand how mail
> works?  What happens when you switch mailservers, but then there is a new
> requirement that the new mailserver won't handle?
>
> This is the problem with trying to make new rules for an old game.  For
the
> same reason that we can't easily come out with "SMTP2" that has controls
to
> minimize spam, people can't start making new assumptions unless there are
> very good reasons behind them, and the requirements are within
> reason.  Requiring the EHLO/HELO to match the PTR is plain silly.  It may
> work well in a weighted system (making it more likely that the E-mail will
> be marked as spam), but not for outright rejections.
>
> Somewhere you have to draw the line as to what hoops you will be willing
to
> jump through to get other people to read your mail.
>
>                                                     -Scott
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