Disagree all you like, but my statement is  based on more than 15 years of
experience with e-mail servers and 35 years of experience with computers and
networking in general.

Pushing something, in this case e-mail, to do something it's not designed to
do, ie: lock a file while a remote client (not on the same machine) checks
for e-mail and, if idap is enabled, parses all of the files and mailbox
trees, will not behave well in any environment if it is done too frequently.

At some point both the hardware and software have to be able to have time to
do their associated tasks.

Again, disagree with me all you want, but e-mail is NOT instant messaging.
Instant messaging is a totally different application that routes a burst of
data to a specific IP address without having to send it to a file that holds
it to be checked and responded to.

If someone wants e-mail, then they need to treat it like e-mail.  If they
want instant messaging, then get instant messaging, but don't whine and cry
about something not working in the manner in which they perceive it should
work.

There are standards for everything and somewhere a whole generation of
computer crybabies who demand their own way decided to throw them out the
window.  I don't tolerate that kind of attitude or behavior, and I won't
tolerate my employees, customers or clients telling me how a product that is
supposed to do one thing should be pushed to do something else.  If they
abuse my staff, my network, my services or me, they get shut off and are
free to go elsewhere.

Bruce Barnes
ChicagoNetTech Inc

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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:59
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I respectfully disagree. Even the IMail Webmail in 8.1 says it autochecks
for new mail every 5 minutes.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:44 PM
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No e-mail client should ever be checking for e-mail any more frequently than
every TWENTY minutes.  If you check for e-mail more frequently, it can LOCK
the mail box and the queue on ANY server, IMail, Exchange, or any other
server, and substantially slow the message delivery within the server.

E-Mail is NOT instant messaging.  The standard for e-mail delivery is still
about 3 hours - NOT instant.

Bruce Barnes
ChicagoNetTech

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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:23
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Can anyone address why it now takes anywhere from 10-25 minutes to send an
email between 2 Internal Mailboxes in IMail 8.1 when this happened fairly
instantly in 8.05? It also takes 10-20 minutes if you have forwarding set up
in IMail Administrator between the mailboxes. This happens even if it's the
only email in the system, so its not a load issue.

It appears to be a queue issue. As the queue cannot be re-run any faster
than 10 minutes, it now takes a minimum of 10 minutes to send an email to
another person on the system - if that person has their mailbox (such as to
their assistant) it takes an additional 10 minutes for the assistant to get
it - and that is based on Outlook checking for messages just after the queue
runs. If Outlook only runs every 2-5 minutes, then it takes upwards of 30
minutes to send emails internally.

This really is unacceptable.



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bridges,
Samantha
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:06 AM
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Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?


No problems here. Install was easy and quick.



-----Original Message-----
From: Travis Rabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:01 AM
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I had some troubles with the upgrade there were in part as a result of
my own doing.  IN the end the HF2 fixed what I was seeing.  Overall, I
am very pleased with 8.1


Travis

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:22 AM
> To: iMail Forum
> Subject: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?
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>
> I'm contemplating upgrading from 8.05 to 8.1hf2 this weekend.
>
> I don't use LDAP (previous versions seemed "broken", so we use
> something
> else)
>
> I do have approximately 100 users, and all use IMAP to access their
> mail.  A very few (<10) occasionally use WebMail
>
> We process approximately 1500 messages a day
>
> We use Declude Junkmail and Antivirus
>
> Has anyone have a positive experience upgrading to 8.1 in this kind of

> environment?
>
>
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