Tripp and Scott,
I seemed to have the same problem. I moved back to 8.05.
Under SMTP in my advanced delivery application under 8.05 I have:
declude.exe
not
smtp32.exe
Since I use declude for SPAM.
Should I try to update to 8.1 again and change this to smtp32.exe?
Do you know what happens to declude in that case?
Do I need to make any changes in declude?
Thanks,
-Bill
William E. Daniels
Director of Technology
Episcopal Academy
376 N. Latches Lane
Merion Station, PA 19066-1797
610-617-2225 (W) 610-656-5505 (cell)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RMilner
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?
yes, thats what it is...using the uninstall procedures listed in advance
spam check.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tripp Allen
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?
Okay, but the symptoms you describe sound like SMTPD is calling an external
process which isn't there (or the process isn't calling smtp32 when it's
done). If you had a process in place and removed it but did not change the
SENDNAME back, this is exactly what would happen. What is in iadmin -
localhost - services - smtp - advanced - Delivery Application? If you don't
have an external plug in it should contain your path to the IMail directory
\ smtp32.exe like c:\imail\smtp32.exe.
Tripp
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From: "RMilner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:47 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?
> This was a straight upgrade over a ghost of the existing 8.05 setup.
>
> The only thing to change not done by 8.1x or the HF was I took out the
> advance spam check that Heiko Herrmann made available to the list a
> week
or
> so prior to 8.10 being released as I wanted to see what 8.1x would do
> in terms of spam control without additional add ins.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tripp Allen
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?
>
>
> It sounds like something is not configured correctly. This sounds
> like smtpd is getting the message but is not telling the queue manager
> about
it.
> Do you have some type of plug in between STMPD and the queue manager?
> What's in your SENDNAME?
>
> Tripp
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RMilner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?
>
>
> > This is a simple Pop 3 system - no IMAP or LDAP. Less than 100
mailboxes.
> > Less than 300 emails a day.
> >
> > The logs clearly show that the issue is the queue running every 10
minutes
> > in 8.1. This WAS NOT an issue in 8.0x
> >
> > If an assistant books a car with Hertz at 12:01 online and the
> confirmation
> > is sent back to her boss at 12:02, you can see it in the system at
12:02,
> > but it waits until the queue runs at 12:11 to deliver it to the
Manager's
> > email box. At that point a copy is forwarded to the Assistant from
> > the Manager's box so it has to wait until the next time the queue
> > runs, at
> 12:21
> > and it arrives in her Mailbox at 12:21. However, if she checks for
> > mail every 5 minutes, the actual message doesn't appear until 12:25
> > - a 23
> minute
> > delay.
> >
> > This took place in a matter of seconds with version 8.0x.
> >
> > Thus 8.1 has made it appear that we have gone back lightyears in
> > mail processing.
> >
> > To make it worse, the time stamp is at 12:02 on the email when the
server
> > received it. Thus the people know its been in limbo for 23 minutes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis
> > Rabe
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:26 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?
> >
> > Are you using IMAP? This is how I had discovered the fix that HF2
fixed.
> > The same thing was happening to me. If you look at the logs does it
show
> an
> > error trying to deliver the message because the main.mbx file is locked?
> If
> > so, install HF2. If you laready have....couldn't tell ya other than
look
> at
> > the logs for your answer.
> >
> > Travis
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RMilner
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?
> > >
> > >
> > > Can anyone address why it now takes anywhere from 10-25 minutes to
> > > send an email between 2 Internal Mailboxes in IMail 8.1 when this
> > > happened fairly instantly in 8.05? It also takes 10-20 minutes if
> > > you have forwarding set up in IMail Administrator between the
mailboxes.
> > > This happens even if it's the only email in the system, so its not
> > > a load issue.
> > >
> > > It appears to be a queue issue. As the queue cannot be re-run any
> > > faster than 10 minutes, it now takes a minimum of 10 minutes to
> > > send an email to another person on the system - if that person has
> > > their mailbox (such as to their assistant) it takes an additional
> > > 10 minutes for the assistant to get it - and that is based on
> > > Outlook checking for messages just after the queue runs. If
> > > Outlook only runs every 2-5 minutes, then it takes upwards of 30
> > > minutes to send emails internally.
> > >
> > > This really is unacceptable.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bridges,
> > > Samantha
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:06 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?
> > >
> > >
> > > No problems here. Install was easy and quick.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Travis Rabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:01 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?
> > >
> > >
> > > I had some troubles with the upgrade there were in part as a
> > > result of my own doing. IN the end the HF2 fixed what I was
> > > seeing. Overall, I am very pleased with 8.1
> > >
> > >
> > > Travis
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bud
> > > > Durland
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:22 AM
> > > > To: iMail Forum
> > > > Subject: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm contemplating upgrading from 8.05 to 8.1hf2 this weekend.
> > > >
> > > > I don't use LDAP (previous versions seemed "broken", so we use
> > > > something
> > > > else)
> > > >
> > > > I do have approximately 100 users, and all use IMAP to access
> > > > their mail. A very few (<10) occasionally use WebMail
> > > >
> > > > We process approximately 1500 messages a day
> > > >
> > > > We use Declude Junkmail and Antivirus
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone have a positive experience upgrading to 8.1 in this
> > > > kind of
> > >
> > > > environment?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ---
> > > > illigitimi non carborundum
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics
> > > > Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com
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