For my part, I realize that Imail DOES do everything they claim, it just may
not do it very well or exactly the way I want it done.  The reason Declude
is so often recommended is because a user is asking for something that Imail
either won't do, or doesn't do well.  If Declude specifically applies to the
original question, I don't see it as a sales pitch to hear it recommended
(i.e. "Imail SORT of does this, but if you want to do it THIS way, you'll
need Declude."). 

Sometimes, though, there IS a sales pitch where someone is just asking for
clarification on existing functionality within Imail.  If the answer is
"This is the answer to your question BUT Declude does it better", well that
is uncalled for, IMO.

My 2�,
Dan Horne



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guy Deslauriers
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Trusted Addresses question

Thanks Laura & Chris, you got the email "tone" right!

Thanks Scott for the leads after being offended (though it wasn't my intent
at all).  I wasn't saying that to ditch Declude as I've never looked at what
it's offering.  But too often in this "imail forum" the proposed solution to
some problems other people have (that I also have) ends up being "Solution:
Declude"...

So, to come back to the topic of this thread, I already looked at the SMTP
and SPAM logs for the email in question and for some unknown reason, it
doesn't get the domain white list though if I look around, other emails
(before and after) are getting white listed?!?!?

I was inquiring about the Received: entry in the header 'cause sometimes it
differs from the email domain.  I highly doubted that too but it was just a
wild guess as to why it's not picking up certain white list entry...

Would there be any white list file size limit that would make it behave
strangely? (here's another far fetch attempt at finding the solution!)

Thanks all in advance for any suggestion you can provide

gd

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Moody
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Trusted Addresses question

I agree with Laura, although I can understand where the sentiment about the
sales pitch comes from. Many folks were sold on Imail being a one stop
solution for handling email with anti-spam and ant-virus (if you buy their
add on), only to find it doesn't work as well as it was advertised. When
folks join the list for help, they often face threads trumpeting third party
solutions (yes frequently Declude) for issues they were sold on Imail
handling. For many it gets frustrating to find you spent $500 or more
dollars and need to spend another $400 for third party software to make
things work as well as they were hyped too.

I don't think anyone (besides Len :) would dispute Scott's technical ability
or that Declude is "all that and a bag of chips too". Given that the list is
about "Imail", I think plugs for third party solutions are best given after
any helpful advice about getting things to work within Imail itself.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura Bhandari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Trusted Addresses question


>
> I didn't read Guy's email to be any sort of attack on Declude (or Scott).
I
> think he was simply asking for solutions within IMail. I can't imagine
> anyone on this list not realizing the value of Declude or Scott for that
> matter. I hope that Scott doesn't feel slighted.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sharyn Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Trusted Addresses question
>
>
>
> >>Please, I don't want the usual "Declude's the way to go!" sales pitch,
>
>
> Perhaps the reason that everyone responds with "Declude's the way to go!"
> is, well, because it is.
>
> I don't believe there is any software around that offers the kind of tech
> support that Scott is willing to give, over and over and over.
>
> Sharyn
>
>
>
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