Yes, it is.

Bill Foresman
Matrosity Hosting
www.matrosityhosting.com
Office: (850) 656-2644



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And you didn't even mention that with Cisco their support is AWESOME..

Darrell

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Foresman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent


I just renewed the support contracts for our Cisco Routers and there were a
whopping $200 each. How can ipswitch lose money on their support when Cisco
must pay people WAY more than ipswitch. Also, I can call them 24 hours a day
even on Xmas.

Oh well.

Bill Foresman
Matrosity Hosting
www.matrosityhosting.com
Office: (850) 656-2644



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Galerneau
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 4:05 PM
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Funny thing about all of this is that those that seem to charge us the most
for what they provide are often the ones that offer the least in terms of
support and resolve. They charge so much but then instead of supporting our
local economy they farm it out to sweatshop style support people who a
reading it from a script so the companies can make even more money. The
quality bar for support goes down, their profits soar higher. Doesn't seem
like the American way to do business to me.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffery Rehm
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 10:53 AM
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You bet!!!  I would MUCH rather deal with a tech support person in the US
that can't speak English than one overseas that can't.


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From: "Evans Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 12:59
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AMEN Brotha!  We are evaluating all of our vendor's support offerings as
well and are looking for alternative products if they are not "home grown".


As a customer, I should only have to overcome the technical issues NOT the
language barrier as well.

Keep up the good work!

Evans Martin
Martekware.Com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Barnes
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 10:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent
>
> I totally agree.  We do not do business with anyone who out sources 
> their tech support.  We've lost enough jobs to overseas call centers 
> and it's time to start voting with our checkbooks and credit cards.
>
> Bruce Barnes
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William Van 
> Hefner
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 22:00
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent
>
>
> Dave,
>
> I had a good friend who was, until recently, a floor supervisor for 
> Symantec's call center in Eugene, OR. They were notified several 
> months ago that all of their jobs would be moved to India, and that 
> their services would no longer be needed. My friend had several months 
> worth of sick time and vacation time that he had accrued over the 
> years, and was told that he would not be allowed to take them during 
> the final months of the division's operations. So, he was basically 
> cheated out of his money.
>
> Needless to say, Symantec tech support has gone directly into the 
> toilet. I no longer consider them a reliable company to do business 
> with. I would much rather do business with someone like F-Prot, which 
> doesn't try to hide where
> their tech support comes from (the company is located in Iceland).
>
> As far as I'm concerned, Symantec is one of those companies that is 
> outsourcing America, and does not deserve a dime of my money anymore. 
> Screw them. America first!
>
>
> William Van Hefner
> Network Administrator
>
> Vantek Communications, Inc. http://www.vantekcommunications.com
>
>
>
>
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