CDW price for MS SBS 2003 standard (includes Exchange and Server 2003) -> $569.62 Cheesy Dell server -> $799.
Not having your email blocked by arbitrary rules set up but email server admins -> Priceless. Point being that not everyone has our ability to spend $10K+ on a server and then the recurring significant cost of a high grade data connection. This is not the Internet of 5 years ago where the only people who use it are techically savvy individuals. It's like saying if you have a dirt driveway you should expect to be excluded from some the driveways in America. ADSL isn't the only one subject to arbitrary banning. xDSL is. What about the FTTP connections Verizon is deploying now? Are we going to start blocking those too because they also get deployed into areas that cross residential zones? Block all you want. I'll still get paid for when a customer calls me and says that they can't send email to you and I have to bill them by the hour to determine that you're blocking them for no reason other than you don't like their Internet connection class. (yeah..its lunch so I had some free time to respond again. :-\ ). -----Original Message----- From: William Van Hefner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] reverse DNS Darin, It must be a pretty odd business that can afford all of the hardware and software licensing for an Exchange server (not to mention for an admin that can set it up and maintain it) and multiple copies of Outlook, yet can't afford anything more than a single ADSL line. If such legitimate traffic makes up even .1% of all ADSL traffic, I'd be shocked. In the end, you get what you pay for. Those running ADSL will have to expect that some of their mail will get blocked, just as they have to expect that support will likely not be as good as they would get with a more reliable circuit. ADSL is primarily a residential product. You will never see any ethical service provider selling ADSL as a service that should be relied upon for something as mission critical as e-mail. I would never advise a customer to use ADSL for any type of hosting without first alerting them to the possibility/probability that their mail is going to be blocked by a lot of other mail servers. William Van Hefner Network Administrator Vantek Communications, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:29 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] reverse DNS > > > >I am pretty sure that most providers do not recommend running a mail > >server on their ADSL lines, even ones with static Ips. I > think that if > >you opt for a residential class service, you are bound to > run into all > >kinds of problems. Getting your mail rejected by tons of other mail > >servers is only going to be one of your many worries. > > It's not residental service, we're talking business service via > DSL/cable. > > >Any business that is so small as to not be able to afford something > >better than an ADSL line should probably not be running > their own mail > >server to begin with. > > There are all sorts of reasons as to why small businesses might need > to run their own mail server, but see no need to spend several times > the $$$ for a T1 line as opposed to DSL or cable. Many of the > businesses we work with have their own internal Exchange servers for > reason of collaboration needs, or integration with other internal > processes. > > Could they opt to spend more money on data lines, yes. Could they > achieve their collaboration/integration needs in other ways without > needing an internal mail server, yes. Do these other possibilities > mean that the business should be forced to do so, no. > > If the reliability of the DSL/cable line (or multiple lines for > redundancy in some cases) meets their needs, it would not be smart as > a business to spend more money just because a particular email admin > somewhere in the world decides to start blocking all mail from static > IP DSL/cable subscribers. > The fact that there is no consensus in this discussion bears > testament to the fact that T1 lines or better are not a de facto > standard for email server connectivity. > > Bottom line is businesses have to make budgetary decisions like this > based on technical merit and financial feasability. > They would be foolish to spend more than necessary to meet their > needs. From that perspective, business class DSL/cable should be > considered viable connectivity solutions. > > Darin. > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
