Then you sir do not understand how e-mail works, as by your statement you do
not want to receive any e-mail from the internet.

Or are you going to try and add every single IP address for every server for
those that you want to send you e-mail?

John T
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas Fornander
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:05 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Need help with configuring anti-spam
> 
> 
> I have RTFM.
> Please read my post.
> It has nothing to with who can send out mail.
> 
> I don't want Imail to receive mail to ANY users if that mail is NOT
> sent from a trusted IP or authenticated.
> 
> There is no way of doing this AFAIK unless we switch all users to use
> port 587 and block access to port 25 to Imail from the Internet.
> 
> Jonas Fornander - System Administrator
> Netwood Communications,LLC - www.netwood.net
> Find out why we're better - 310-442-1530
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
> > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:50 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Need help with configuring anti-spam
> >
> > "Imail should only accept mail from trusted IP addresses and
> > authenticated users on port 25"
> >
> > No checkbox necessary.  If you have "relay for addresses" (as
> > you stated
> > you did) then you ALREADY REQUIRE authentication except for the IP
> > addresses listed.  RTFM.
> >
> > "Would it work if I change the alternate authentication port 587 to
> 25
> > in the registry?"
> >
> > For what purpose?  SMTP AUTH ALREADY WORKS ON PORT 25!!!  It
> > always has.
> > Port 587 is there specifically for those clients that can't connect
> on
> > port 25 due to their ISP's blocking that port outbound.
> >
> > Here's the thing, in your original post, you described your setup as
> > this: relay for addresses (good), port 587 enabled (good),
> > but then you
> > thought you needed control access, but you didn't.  Just relay for
> > addresses and port 587 will get you EXACTLY what you want.
> > No one will
> > be able to send any mail, no matter what port they use, unless they
> > authenticate (port 25 OR port 587), or unless they are in your
> trusted
> > IP range (port 25 only).
> >
> > Once again, please RTFM.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > Jonas Fornander
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:28 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Need help with configuring anti-spam
> > >
> > >
> > > It would but it doesn't change the fact (for me) that it's a
> > > workaround.
> > >
> > > Why should we have to go through all this work to move every
> > > single user to port 587 when all that is needed is a checkbox
> > > in Imail that says "Enable strict authentication on port 25).
> > > IOW, Imail should only accept mail from trusted IP addresses
> > > and authenticated users on port
> > > 25 when this checkbox is selected. How hard would it be for
> > > Ipswitch to implement this? I bet you can whip this out in an
> > > afternoon. You already have all the ingredience. In this
> > > scenario we don't have to do a single change to any users and
> > > no-one will be able to spew spam directly to Imail. There
> > > would also be no need to SPF since those sender would neither
> > > authenticate nor send from a trusted IP.
> > >
> > > Would it work if I change the alternate authentication port
> > > 587 to 25 in the registry? What would happen?
> > >
> > > Jonas Fornander - System Administrator
> > > Netwood Communications,LLC - www.netwood.net Find out why
> > > we're better - 310-442-1530
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric
> > > > Shanbrom
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:28 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Need help with configuring anti-spam
> > > >
> > > > Since at this time there is only one ACL for the SMTP service
> this
> > > is
> > > > your problem.... my setup would be like this for this scenario:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Router with IMGate in the DMZ
> > > > IMail server on internal network
> > > > IMail relays for internal network and requires auth on port 587
> > > > Outbound mail to gateway (IMGate machine)
> > > >
> > > > FW Rules:
> > > > all external port 25 traffic to DMZ
> > > > no external port 25 to internal
> > > > Port 587 allowed to IMail
> > > > Your users are given port 587 (set to require auth) for
> > > their outgong
> > > > mail
> > > >
> > > > I believe this will accomplish what you are wanting
> > > >
> > > > Eric S
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jonas Fornander wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I thought I understood how to configure Imail with port
> > > 587 but now
> > > > >I'm more confused than ever. I hope someone can un-confuse me.
> > > > >This is our setup:
> > > > >
> > > > >Our MX records points to Imgate
> > > > >
> > > > >Our hosting, DSL and dialup users has mail.netwood.net as their
> 
> > > > >outgoing server which is Imail. This server is configured
> > > to "Relay
> > > > >for addresses" and our IP blocks are listed.
> > > > >
> > > > >Our Imail is running 8.20 and port 587 is enabled and
> > > working. If I
> > > > >change my own account to use port 587 it works if I enable "My
> > > > >outgoing server requires authentication".
> > > > >
> > > > >So everything is working as it should, sooooo now what?
> > > > >
> > > > >I thought that I would be able to go to SMTP Security ->
> Control
> > > > >Access and deny access for all IP addresses EXCEPT for
> > our trusted
> > > IP
> > > > >blocks. Then users on non-trusted IP addresses would be able to
> > > send
> > > > >out mail using port 587 it they were authenticated. However if
> I
> > > deny
> > > > >access to a non-trusted IP in SMTP Security -> Control
> > Access then
> > > > >they can't send out mail on port 587 either, even if they
> > > > >authenticate. :-(
> > > > >
> > > > >What am I missing?
> > > > >
> > > > >How can I make our users  - on trusted IP addresses -
> > > being able to
> > > > >use mail.netwood.net to send out mail and our users - on
> > > non-trusted
> > > > >IP addresses - to send out mail on port 587 (with
> authentication)
> > > and
> > > > >ALL other mail, sent directly to the Imail server should be
> > > rejected?
> > > > >
> > > > >Jonas Fornander - System Administrator Netwood
> > > Communications,LLC -
> > > > >www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - 310-442-1530
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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