Yes, it looks like a firewall is what he wants. ;) 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> John Tolmachoff (Lists)
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Need help with configuring anti-spam
> 
> Then you sir do not understand how e-mail works, as by your 
> statement you do not want to receive any e-mail from the internet.
> 
> Or are you going to try and add every single IP address for 
> every server for those that you want to send you e-mail?
> 
> John T
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas Fornander
> > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:05 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Need help with configuring anti-spam
> > 
> > 
> > I have RTFM.
> > Please read my post.
> > It has nothing to with who can send out mail.
> > 
> > I don't want Imail to receive mail to ANY users if that mail is NOT 
> > sent from a trusted IP or authenticated.
> > 
> > There is no way of doing this AFAIK unless we switch all 
> users to use 
> > port 587 and block access to port 25 to Imail from the Internet.
> > 
> > Jonas Fornander - System Administrator Netwood Communications,LLC - 
> > www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - 310-442-1530
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Dan Horne
> > > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:50 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Need help with configuring anti-spam
> > >
> > > "Imail should only accept mail from trusted IP addresses and 
> > > authenticated users on port 25"
> > >
> > > No checkbox necessary.  If you have "relay for addresses" (as you 
> > > stated you did) then you ALREADY REQUIRE authentication 
> except for 
> > > the IP addresses listed.  RTFM.
> > >
> > > "Would it work if I change the alternate authentication 
> port 587 to
> > 25
> > > in the registry?"
> > >
> > > For what purpose?  SMTP AUTH ALREADY WORKS ON PORT 25!!!  
> It always 
> > > has.
> > > Port 587 is there specifically for those clients that 
> can't connect
> > on
> > > port 25 due to their ISP's blocking that port outbound.
> > >
> > > Here's the thing, in your original post, you described 
> your setup as
> > > this: relay for addresses (good), port 587 enabled 
> (good), but then 
> > > you thought you needed control access, but you didn't.  
> Just relay 
> > > for addresses and port 587 will get you EXACTLY what you want.
> > > No one will
> > > be able to send any mail, no matter what port they use, 
> unless they 
> > > authenticate (port 25 OR port 587), or unless they are in your
> > trusted
> > > IP range (port 25 only).
> > >
> > > Once again, please RTFM.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas 
> > > > Fornander
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:28 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Need help with configuring anti-spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It would but it doesn't change the fact (for me) that it's a 
> > > > workaround.
> > > >
> > > > Why should we have to go through all this work to move every 
> > > > single user to port 587 when all that is needed is a 
> checkbox in 
> > > > Imail that says "Enable strict authentication on port 25).
> > > > IOW, Imail should only accept mail from trusted IP 
> addresses and 
> > > > authenticated users on port
> > > > 25 when this checkbox is selected. How hard would it be for 
> > > > Ipswitch to implement this? I bet you can whip this out in an 
> > > > afternoon. You already have all the ingredience. In 
> this scenario 
> > > > we don't have to do a single change to any users and 
> no-one will 
> > > > be able to spew spam directly to Imail. There would also be no 
> > > > need to SPF since those sender would neither 
> authenticate nor send 
> > > > from a trusted IP.
> > > >
> > > > Would it work if I change the alternate authentication port
> > > > 587 to 25 in the registry? What would happen?
> > > >
> > > > Jonas Fornander - System Administrator Netwood 
> Communications,LLC 
> > > > - www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - 310-442-1530
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Eric 
> > > > > Shanbrom
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:28 PM
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Need help with configuring 
> anti-spam
> > > > >
> > > > > Since at this time there is only one ACL for the SMTP service
> > this
> > > > is
> > > > > your problem.... my setup would be like this for this 
> scenario:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Router with IMGate in the DMZ
> > > > > IMail server on internal network IMail relays for internal 
> > > > > network and requires auth on port 587 Outbound mail 
> to gateway 
> > > > > (IMGate machine)
> > > > >
> > > > > FW Rules:
> > > > > all external port 25 traffic to DMZ no external port 25 to 
> > > > > internal Port 587 allowed to IMail Your users are 
> given port 587 
> > > > > (set to require auth) for
> > > > their outgong
> > > > > mail
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe this will accomplish what you are wanting
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric S
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jonas Fornander wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I thought I understood how to configure Imail with port
> > > > 587 but now
> > > > > >I'm more confused than ever. I hope someone can 
> un-confuse me.
> > > > > >This is our setup:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Our MX records points to Imgate
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Our hosting, DSL and dialup users has 
> mail.netwood.net as their
> > 
> > > > > >outgoing server which is Imail. This server is configured
> > > > to "Relay
> > > > > >for addresses" and our IP blocks are listed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Our Imail is running 8.20 and port 587 is enabled and
> > > > working. If I
> > > > > >change my own account to use port 587 it works if I 
> enable "My 
> > > > > >outgoing server requires authentication".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >So everything is working as it should, sooooo now what?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I thought that I would be able to go to SMTP Security ->
> > Control
> > > > > >Access and deny access for all IP addresses EXCEPT for
> > > our trusted
> > > > IP
> > > > > >blocks. Then users on non-trusted IP addresses would 
> be able to
> > > > send
> > > > > >out mail using port 587 it they were authenticated. 
> However if
> > I
> > > > deny
> > > > > >access to a non-trusted IP in SMTP Security -> Control
> > > Access then
> > > > > >they can't send out mail on port 587 either, even if they 
> > > > > >authenticate. :-(
> > > > > >
> > > > > >What am I missing?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >How can I make our users  - on trusted IP addresses -
> > > > being able to
> > > > > >use mail.netwood.net to send out mail and our users - on
> > > > non-trusted
> > > > > >IP addresses - to send out mail on port 587 (with
> > authentication)
> > > > and
> > > > > >ALL other mail, sent directly to the Imail server should be
> > > > rejected?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Jonas Fornander - System Administrator Netwood
> > > > Communications,LLC -
> > > > > >www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - 310-442-1530
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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