Thanks Davide for your detailed reply.
> Besides admiration for such an high intellectual challenge? ;-)
> Seriously: there is interest, but so far noone has offered
> his body in sacrifice to The Mighty Python to help... ;-)
I don't think I'd know where to start. :)
Did you get a chance to analyze the details of whats involved?
-Alen
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Davide Alberani
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 18, Alen Ribic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> What I noticed immediately is that the imdbID I saw previously using
>> 'web' accessSystem is not the same id's I see now that I have a
>> local sql db.
>
> It's detailed in the documentation here and there.
> Definitions:
> - imdbID: one of the unique IDs used by _the IMDb web site_ to identify
> something (you need to specify if it's a movie/person/character/company).
> They are unique (amongst the same kind of information), and never reused.
> - movieID/personID/characterID/companyID: IDs that _IMDbPY_ uses to
> uniquely identify something.
> Using the 'html' and 'mobile' data access system, they are easy to
> choose: just use the imdbID!
> With 'local' and 'sql' you have to deal with a very sad reality:
> IMDb doesn't distribute the associations between imdbID and movies' titles,
> people's names and so on.
> Uh-oh... that's a nice hill of camel shit to dig into. :-)
> You're forced to fabricate them, and it goes without saying that
> they never match the imdbIDs.
> As a side note: imdbIDs (and movieID/personID/... in the 'http'
> and 'mobile') are strings (with leading zeros), while in 'sql'
> and 'local' the movieID/personID/... are integers.
>
>> So I am not 100% sure what you mean by "...(on-line, so
>> that the "real" imdbID can be retrieved and associated to a
>> movie/person/whateverID internally used by the db...".
>
> In my usual enlightened wisdom I had foreseen that IMDbPY users may want
> to convert a movieID to the corresponding imdbID; while you already have
> it for 'http'/'mobile', you need to be on-line and try an "Exact
> Primary Title Search" (a somewhat hidden feature of the IMDb search
> system) to convert a title to an imdbID.
> With 'sql', once the conversion is done, the value is also stored
> in the database, so that future queries will not need to ask the
> IMDb server again. These imdbIDs are also saved, updating an
> existing db.
>
> In the code, you can convert a movieID/whateverID to an imdbID with:
> from imdb import IMDb
> i = IMDb('sql or local')
> m = i.get_movie(thisIsAmovieID)
> imdbID = i.get_imdbURL(m) # here the IMDb server is accessed.
>
> If you're wondering: there's no way that I'll wrote a script to
> fetch the imdbID for every movie/person/... from the IMDb site,
> and I'll never support anyone who want to do this: it would be an
> heavy violation of their policy.
> So don't do it, and never ever use IMDbPY to misuse the IMDb site.
>
>> I notice that some movie (titles) that have the "plot"/"plot outline"
>> detail in web/mobile accessSystem do not appear to have any sql db.
>> Could this be that it was updated recently and not available in
>> plain text version? (I actually tried a few)
>
> Here you faced another sad fact of live: the plain text data files
> are far from completes. :-/
> Only the files which descend from the original free database are
> available (you won't find "dvd" or "faqs" information and many
> others: they were added later).
> Plot outline is one of the missing information, while as far as
> I know "plot" should be complete - but I may be wrong.
>
>> I have logic for getting the "cover url" and "headshot". It works
>> fine in web/mobile accessSystem but nothing is returned when using
>> local sql accessSystem.
>
> Headshot and "cover url" are not available in the plain text data
> files.
>
>> So I am trying to see how I can fix those or at least provide
>> alternative solutions for a production environment in mind.
>
> It's never too late for a little disclaimer. :-)
> Don't take it personally, the paragraph below is part of something I
> say every time someone comes to me with a Great Idea(tm) about IMDbPY.
>
> What kind of "production environment"?
> Beware that the data you get from IMDb are _not_ free, except
> for personal usage (in fact, if you want to use them for commercial
> purposes, you have to pay tens of thousands of US dollars in licence fees).
> You need to accept their conditions (for the web site):
> http://www.imdb.com/help/show_article?conditions
> Or, for the plain text data files:
> http://www.imdb.com/interfaces.html
>
> IMDbPY is free software (open source) and you can use it in any way
> you like (respecting the terms of the GPL2 licence), but the data
> you access with it is not free.
> Use it for yourself as you like, but don't resell, redistribute
> or create non-personal/commercial services with these data!
>
>> >
>> > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=464CD583.2090609%40buro302.nl&forum_name=imdbpy-devel
>>
>> I read this few days ago. Would be a great idea. Has there been
>> enough interest shown in requesting this feature?
>
> Besides admiration for such an high intellectual challenge? ;-)
> Seriously: there is interest, but so far noone has offered
> his body in sacrifice to The Mighty Python to help... ;-)
>
>
> --
> Davide Alberani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [PGP KeyID: 0x465BFD47]
> http://erlug.linux.it/~da/
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