It looks like the community is small (11 committers including 4 mentors), but they have been able to produce a release that was voted and shipped. Not a small task considering everything.

I'd say it's time to see if there is enough diversity and an interested enough community to graduate Imperius as a top level project. I don't see another TLP that would be a good fit.

The diversity standard is three committers independent of each other. From what I know, there are two major organizations, Sun(Oracle) and IBM who are involved, and I know there are unaffiliated committers, but I don't know the affiliations of most of the non-Sun(Oracle), non- IBM folks.

Who is out there who is interested in continuing to be part of the community? Please speak up now. Like by April 1.

I agree with Kevan that we should announce the result of this thread in our April report to the incubator and make a decision by July on whether to shut this down or graduate it.

Craig

On Mar 24, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:

Oops. Let this slip by without responding... Apologies.

On Mar 18, 2010, at 1:59 PM, David L Kaminsky wrote:
I think the lack of response to this e-mail kind of summarizes the state pretty well.

:)

IMO, Imperius is an excellent implementation of a policy engine, but either (a) it hasn't been well publicized, so only a small number of groups are using it, or (b) there is currently only a small group of potential users. Or some of both.

To be clear, my comments / questions have nothing to do with the quality of the Imperius implementation nor with any of the committers on the project.

That puts the project in an intermediate state -- a small user base, perhaps growing very slowing, but with no immediate expectation of accelerating growth.

If there were a substantial cost to keeping Imperius going, I think it would make sense to shut it down. However, I don't think that's true.

Unless there's a clear reason to shut it down -- and perhaps there is one -- I'd suggest just seeing how it goes for awhile. I'd also wonder if there are ways to better publicize the work.

Anyway, just my 2 cents ...

Apache is interested in fostering healthy, diverse, meritocratic communities around open source projects. Incubation is not intended to be a never-ending process. I think we should put a timeline for making a community decision.

Our next board report is April. The subsequent report is July. I propose we make the July Incubator board report a target for reaching a decision about what we think should happen to the Imperius community.

What do others think?

--kevan

Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
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